State universities strongly outranked the Ivy League

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  1. Lerner

    Lerner Well-Known Member

    Dr. John Bear posted this info on another chanel.
    I think this is interesting:

     
  2. AUTiger00

    AUTiger00 New Member

    That's because only Cornell and Penn have business schools at the undergraduate level. Beyond that, the classes are significantly smaller at an Ivy than at a state school (think 1200 freshman compared to 5000 at a state school). If a recruiter wants someone trained in finance they are obviously going to make more hires from schools that offer that as a major/concentration.
     
  3. PatsGirl1

    PatsGirl1 New Member

    yayyy Penn State and Michigan! :) :) :)
     
  4. CalDog

    CalDog New Member

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    So the survey focused on "practical", bachelor's-level training for "entry-level" jobs. In that case, it's true that you probably wouldn't want to recruit at Ivy League schools, for two reasons.

    First, the Ivies focus on traditional liberal arts majors like English or history, rather than on "practical" majors like business or accounting. Ivy students are smart, but no one expects Ivy League bachelor's degrees to be oriented towards practical skills. There are a few exceptions, like a business degree from Penn's Wharton School or a Certificate in Finance from Princeton, but the relatively few students with degrees like that are in high demand on Wall Street; they don't need to pursue "entry-level" jobs.

    Second, most Ivy undergraduates ultimately plan to attend graduate or professional schools after college (and they will be highly favored by such schools). They have no intention of starting their careers with only a bachelor's degree. Since Ivies are typically small by state school standards, and since a large percentage of the graduating seniors are continuing in school rather than seeking employment, there just aren't that many students around to recruit.
     
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  5. mcjon77

    mcjon77 Member

    I am reminded of something Jodi Foster said in an interview on PBS. She was asked why she didn't study drama at Yale. She replied that the administration pushes the idea that you don't go to Yale undergraduate to learn a trade." It makes sense to me. It also explained why Yale has a graduate RN program, but no undergaduate RN program.
     
  6. 03310151

    03310151 Active Member

    Yeah! My Alma mater made it in at number 25. Go Cougs! (especially the football team, poor boys).
     
  7. Where's Auburn?!

    I just watched The Blindside last night where they mentioned Auburn University and the football coach made an appearance (not sure if he was a real coach). Apparently it is a real school so your story checks out. ;)
     
  8. StefanM

    StefanM New Member

    In any case, I'd rather have a Harvard or Yale degree.
     
  9. Maniac Craniac

    Maniac Craniac Moderator Staff Member

    I'd rather go to Disney World.
     
  10. AUTiger00

    AUTiger00 New Member

    That was Tommy Tubberville, aka the Riverboat Gambler, and he was the head coach at Auburn when Michael Orr was coming out of high school. He was a great coach and the Auburn Board of Trustees screwed him over. He is now the head coach at Texas Tech. All of the coaches in the movie where the real head coaches at their respective school during Oher's recruitment.

    As much trash as you talk about my school, since you brought football into the mix, the last time Auburn met your precious Penn State on the football field, at the 2003 Capital One Bowl one of our schools lost. Do you know who's? I'll give you a hint, it wasn't Auburn. PS Who?

    Or a Princeton or Columbia or Dartmouth or Penn or even a Cornell or Brown degree.
     
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