Aspen University

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  1. me again

    me again Well-Known Member

    Attending Aspen University has pros and cons.

    Pros:
    • Aspen University is DETC/NA, so it cost less than most regionally accredited university programs.
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    • Aspen University is DETC/NA accredited, so it is recognized by the U.S. Department of Education.
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    • Employers and universities that are outside the United States generally don't understand what DETC or NA really means and, subsequently, a degree from Aspen University might have some utility in those countries.
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    • Some employers will recognize a DETC/NA degree from Aspen University.

    Cons:
    • Most regionally accredited universities will not accept DETC/NA degrees from Aspen University.
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    • State universities in the United States don't accept DETC/NA Aspen University degrees for positions as faculty members. Thus, a Masters degree or a Doctorate from Aspen University cannot be used to become a professor.
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    • Employers and universities that are outside the United States may not accept Aspen University degrees, after they find out what DETC or NA really means within the United States.
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    • Not all employers will accept DETC/NA Aspen University degrees.

    That about sums it up! :)
     
  2. SurfDoctor

    SurfDoctor Moderator

    Very good summary, I think you nailed it. Now maybe we can all talk about something besides Aspen. :)
     
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  3. b4cz28

    b4cz28 Active Member

    That's a Pro? Tricking people or hoping to fool them?

    I think there are more that would then would not.
     
  4. Another ambiguous Aspen University thread. *cough* ;)

    I would assume that the vast majority of educational doctorate seekers at Aspen are K-12 teachers and administrators. Do most public/private schools accept DETC credits for advancing in the pay scale (ie. moving to the masters + 30 category)? If they do, I can't see any reason to get an RA degree unless you're either rich, want a better education, or both. Unless I'm missing something.

    Perhaps teachers/administrators looking to transfer to another school district might be worried about how an "online degree" would look. Tenured faculty shouldn't care at all.
     
  5. b4cz28

    b4cz28 Active Member

    Were a board to talk about education. If a member wants to talk about a school, who are you or any other mod to stop them or discourage them in any way from doing so? :) Nothing personal.....
     
  6. me again

    me again Well-Known Member

    Heeheehee! :)

    < NERVOUS STUTTER >
    But...​
    But...​
    But...​

    But...

    But there are soooooo many Aspen University threads at DegreeInfo.com already! What's the harm in creating just one more tiny, eany weany thread about Aspen University? Just one more!!! Puh-leeze!!! :D

    More to come!!! LOL :eek:

    Most foreigners in other countries incorrectly assume that if something is approved by the U.S. Department of Education, then it's the gold standard in America.
     
  7. SurfDoctor

    SurfDoctor Moderator

    Oh, alright. But after this you have to come in and do your homework!
     
  8. Tireman 44444

    Tireman 44444 Well-Known Member

    Do not make him put you in time out Me Again....LOL
     
  9. Maniac Craniac

    Maniac Craniac Moderator Staff Member

    I just got a PM from Chip. Within the next month or so, this forum will be ported over to aspeninfo.com.




    (Kidding, obviously)
     
  10. SurfDoctor

    SurfDoctor Moderator

    Resistance is futile.
     
  11. ebbwvale

    ebbwvale Member

    Perhaps the reason that Aspen has so much free favorable publicity on this board is because it's:
    1. Cost effective for students ( I would think that lower tuition costs in times of recession is socially responsible and good business - greatly contrasted with the exploitative business model that created the GFC);
    2. Has quality (according to the majority of the posts);
    3. Has accreditation, albeit limited in the US (the rest of us don't care about the difference)

    In sort, it has value for students. It is a model that others could look closely at and then people would be talking about them too. Word of mouth is, from my perspective, the most powerful marketing tool. You create the environment for the client to do the branding for you. I guess Aspen is well structured to do this by carving out its discrete educational niche in the area of business.

    Michael is right, however,as it has been fully explored.
     
  12. Dave Wagner

    Dave Wagner Active Member

    So what school would like to talk about?
     
  13. SurfDoctor

    SurfDoctor Moderator

    I'm sorry if I offended you with that comment. I wouldn't stop or discourage anyone even if I could. I started a number of the Aspen threads myself. However, I do think that the subject has been thoroughly discussed from almost every conceivable angle and there is nothing new to add. Even this thread is not covering any new ground because we have discussed everything that can be discussed. But, hey, feel free to talk about Aspen all you want. Wake me up when you are done. :)
     
  14. Garp

    Garp Well-Known Member

    I would suspect that most people who enter their doctorate program simply want an accredited doctorate (recognized accreditation), affordable, and one that may have some utility. It is for personal satisfaction. However, they are not attempting to become faculty at an RA university.

    Frankly, I would caution people who were trying to earn doctorates at Cappela, NorthCentral U, and other for profit on line schools who were earning the doctorate with the hope of becoming tenure track faculty at a 4 year RA university. It may happen BUT the "professor" field is highly completitive and I would imagine those degrees are not going to hold their own against a PhD from well respected private or state university. I would suspect for most people earning them, they too want an accredited doctorate, with some utility, and for personal satisfaction (reach a goal).

    These on line accredited RA PhD's do have utility in academia in that I understand that some Community Colleges will give instructors who are employed there raises and there is the increased prestige for the RA PhD. This is a case where a NCU or Capella PhD may be beneficial or if you are an adjunct faculty at a 4 year school.

    In the end you have to want an accredited doctorate and have the drive to get it with the understanding that it may or may not pay off financially. I would think that drive (determination) is what will get you through the dissertation process when you are wondering what you got yourself into. :eek:
     
  15. SurfDoctor

    SurfDoctor Moderator

    You also need a very deep interest in your field of study. I would go further to say that you need a hunger to become an expert in your field. Anything less will likely not pull you through. At least, this is what I'm telling myself as I begin my doctorate.
     
  16. me again

    me again Well-Known Member

    Oh the glory of Aspen University!

    Oh goodie!!! Let's talk about Aspen University!!! I don't care if Aspen University:

    - is not regionally accredited
    - and can't be used to get a job as a RA professor
    - and can't be used to get tenure at a state university.

    All I need to know is the name: Aspen University :cool:

    It's about time!!! :D
     
  17. Abner

    Abner Well-Known Member

    Ditto!


    Abner :)
     
  18. Dave Wagner

    Dave Wagner Active Member

    There's more that Aspen University seems to be offering. Some of their programs are aimed at under-served professions, such as chemical dependency counselors, alternative energy professionals, mid-career RNs, early childhood educators, mid-career professionals who are wrangling technology, and others.

    The pricing and availability of these programs also makes them perfect for immigrants and under-served minorities; I think Aspen University is making great steps toward cultural competency. Members of the majority culture have traditionally had access to cutting-edge programs and can afford to pay a lot more. These masters degrees (and most of the bachelors degrees) at Aspen are just about the best educational value for North American students available anywhere on the globe.

    So I really like the leadership Aspen University is showing with it's degree offerings and affordability. I have been watching them for a long time and that they are using DETC accreditation strategically, to accomplish something unique in higher education.

    In my experience, leadership happens from the front; Aspen University is out in front of similar schools and dares to do things that other schools should be doing, if they could...
     
  19. Go_Fishy

    Go_Fishy New Member

    Well, seems like the matter is settled for you. Personally, I wouldn't consider a non-RA school for an MBA. An MBA is as much prestige as it is knowledge and skills, so any degree not considered a "real" MBA by some would not make sense to me. No matter how good Aspen is (and I have no doubt it is superb).

    Psssssst...when they are in their own countries, they are not "foreigners." ;)
     
  20. me again

    me again Well-Known Member

    Actually, I agree with you 100%! :)

    LOL yeaa!
     

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