Taking a Law Degree

There are so many litigious guys and ambulance chasing lawyers that I really feel like taking the London External LLB. But I am now loaded with my Aspen Ed.D as well as the start of another Masters program at Malmo, should I even start? Or is any much more flexible and cheaper law degree that permit me to take as and when I feel that I am free?

Receive 4 crazy guys including a lawyer in a week that I feel I do need some law knowledge, granted that the external LLB won't be helping me secure the entry to the Bar, but at least I can use the knowledge and flash my "LLB" around........

 

And if you get the LLB, you can be admitted to an LLM program at a US law school and then be qualified to practice in the states (assuming you pass the state bar).

 

Is there an advantage to taking this route (assuming he's in the U.S.)? It seems like this route would be a lot more complicated rather than just going to law school in the states. It's a very interesting way to go about doing it for sure.

 

Not necessarily. I believe that this approach is still acceptable in some states, but not in others. In Connecticut, for example:

 

I am familiar with the LLB to LLM route as well and think it would be beneficial if you can take the LLB through distance and then the LLM through distance. You can't take an ABA accredited law program through distance (you already know this) and the programs that are available that aren't ABA are mostly for CA bar. I wonder if this route will allow you to sit for the bar exam in many more states?

 

Since the topic hasn't been discussed in some time maybe we could start a thread and compile the states in which you can take this route.

So I guess the main benefit to this route is the fact that you can take the entire path through DL. That's actually pretty cool. I forget but what is the LLB equivalent here in the states?

 

Juris Doctorate in the states = LLB.

Even if you couldn't do an LLM via distance, they are typically only a 1 year program full-time so you could become a practicing attorney (in some states) by earning the LLB via distance while continuing to work then completing a LLM full-time for 1 year in residence. If you were motivated enough you could probably even complete the LLB and LLM the same or a shorter amount of time than by earning a JD.

 

This is what I was thinking and would be about the only way I could do it while active duty in the military. If you already have a BA/BS you can take their graduate program LLB and finish in 2 years (or more) then an LLM somewhere. Might be interesting.

Soup it would be great to have a thread about what states would accept that route, I know NY does and I am sure CA will.

 

I just spent some time reading a few threads here and while I really think this idea is awesome the LLB from UoL appears to be extremely difficult. It's not that I don't expect it to be hard (it should be) but I'm not sure I could do it while completing my master's. I did find that Louisiana will allow you to take the bar if you complete an LLM but I saw no mention of it needing to be B&M.

Although.....you can take up to 8 years to finish the LLB. Maybe I could take a course along with my master's 6 hours and once I'm done with the master's move full speed with the LLB. Ok I have to seriously stop thinking like this.


Oh and the link is here--> http://www.londonexternal.ac.uk/prospective_students/undergraduate/panel/law/index.shtml

 

Same here, I am starting a MA next month but with it only being 30 hours I should finish next summer if I really push it. There are a few LLMs online from ABA accredited schools that are around 1,000/credit hour and they are 24 credit programs.

The reason this is intriguing to me is that the requirements for the military have changed from having to graduate from an ABA accredited program to only requiring to complete a program that will allow you entrance to any state's bar.

 

I'm not following this. Here is a list of key dates for the program:

Summary of key dates

LLB application deadline17 September (non-EU)
17 October (EU)
in the year before you intend to sit your first exams LLB registration deadline30 NovemberDiploma in Law registration deadline 31 October Exams take place May/June



Am I missing the obvious or is the deadline really September? I can't locate an academic calendar to see when courses actually start. Oh and the thought of taking a single course doesn't exist that I can tell. There are 4 paths to the LLB and 2 of them apply to people in our position. Those would be the graduate entry route A or B.

I don't think this way is possible for someone already studying a master's even only carrying 6 hours. I think your idea of finishing the master's degree first might be the better path.

 

Your application would be due in September. You would have to notify the school by November if you intended to sit for (take) exams in May/June.

 

I'm still having editing issues with the blue winky smilies so I'll just create another post.

The fees are confusing like most school with all kinds of differents ones like "Law Skills pathway". It doesn't really break down which ones are required for a specific path but at the core the course registration is £746 which at the current conversion rate is 1,170.73 USD. It's also not very clear if this is for one single course but I would have to assume it is since it doesn't state otherwise.

This is a very interesting option for people looking to complete an LLB and move toward the LLM here in the states. I would just suggest that if you consider this option read the threads on this board because combining this program with other studies you are involved in might be a bad idea. I was hyped up last night but after reading for a few hours I talked myself back into reality. The fact is that carrying even 6 graduate hours is too much to combine with this program much less any other full time program.

 

This has already been discussed here before. Florida Coastal School of Law actually offers an online LLM that costs only $13,000. The degree can be completed in about 56 weeks. Man, this is a good deal.

 

But for you the 4 year Taft was more appealing? I think I read that for CA if it was online it had to be 4 years.

 

I'll admit I printed out the application and will work on it this weekend. If nothing else I get to update my resume. I'm curious if I should convert everything to proper English.

I keep telling myself that taking 6 hours of graduate courses plus trying something like this is crazy but I would like to hear from others. I'm going to read more on the threads about UoL here. Also, has anyone deciphered exactly how much it costs? I'm confused at everything listed.

 

I'll have more time to look at it next week. Maybe today as well, we'll see.

Edit: Just found it, you pay by the year/program instead of individual courses (I think) http://www.londonexternal.ac.uk/study_ep/costs/ug_fees.shtml

3,921 pounds ($6149.89) for everything plus 300 pounds for books every year. http://www.londonexternal.ac.uk/fees/schedules/laws.pdf


Also, this doesn't make sense to me: "Other Costs: Besides the fees payable to the University, you should budget for the cost of purchasing textbooks (this may well be in the region of £200 per year); the cost of any course or tuition you may or (for the Diploma) are required to take and the fee levied by your local examination centre to cover their costs."

 

Don't do that, you'll come off as pompous and affected. They get plenty of foreign applicants, your American English will be fine. If I was from the UK and saw a US applicant attempt to write to me using 'proper' English I would almost think they were being condescending.

 

I disagree - I'm am from the UK originally and still do business there. I ensure my communications are in 'English English', as do several USA companies I consult with. In MS Word it is easy to "set language" to English (UK) to check your writing.
I would use the UK equivalents of degrees (e.g. BSc) or spell them out; especially your Associate Applied Science Degree (AA, AS, & AAS degrees are not widely known in the UK).
Just good etiquette.

 

This seems to be the best offer so far. Wow! Why is law such an expensive thingy!