How does TUI compare to NCU in price/quality?

How does TUI compare to NCU on a price/quality ratio? I know TUI is cheaper but how does the quality of the programs compare? I can't imagine that TUI would be looked upon less favorably than NCU.

This is probably one of those kinds of questions that can't really be answered, but I would like opinions nonetheless. (I know there have been some other threads similar to this, but I haven't seen an actual price to quality comparison between the two)

 

Well, since I have an MS-ITM from TUI and taking classes for the MBA in Marketing and completing a PhD from NCU I think I have an idea. The cost is cheaper for the TUI classes (I get a discount). The quality is about the same but I like the fact that NCU has books as opposed to a CD.

 

Internet-only schools are are "shooting themselves in the foot." They do not pay attention to issues that affect their students, instead, they more concerned with enrollment numbers. During my IT Management master degree program at TUI, I confronted a professor in a few of my courses because the course content were very elementary-like, and worst, their content were very far from addressing the CBK in those areas.

For example, two courses named "Management of Information Technology in Organizations" and "Foundations of Information Technology Management" only addressed very basic or elementary management knowledge/issues whereas, one would have easily done that, and the other (Foundations of Information Technology Management) should be used to address the overall enterprise IT systems, concepts, tools and/or infrastructure etc. Why?

To provide a more balanced knowledge appropriate for or expected of an IT management degree holder. Surprisingly, after informing the professor regarding my concerns for the course, he said he intends to make the two courses (which he teaches exclusively) even more of management topics (and poorly, very basic or elementary management issues appropriate first year college prep courses). What really got to me in his responds was the fact that he kept on saying " after all its an IT management degree," which sounded very stupid.

The bottom line is that he was not qualified (his PhD was in Organizational Management with no coursework in IT) to teach both courses, so instead of him letting go of one course, he systematically changed the contents to what suits him so he can make money from teaching both instead of one (and ofcourse, at the detriment of students who naively, and in some cases, stupidly pay for them and feel they are learning relevant content).

It did not end there. When I was done with the program, this same professor pestered me to enroll in their PhD in business administration/ IT management specialization. After looking at the course work that make up the program, I told him it would not serve my career goals. Instead of him asking me why, he kept on telling me that he's sure I can write a dissertation. I told him, dissertation is one thing, i'm more concerned about learning "relevant content" so that I have the necessary common body knowledge of the course/field, instead of teaching me communication skills, workplace politics etc. in a course that should teach systems development process such as life cycle models and project phases, for instance. I end up not enrolling because it would be hard to teach specific IT courses (such as information security, project management, Networking/Telecommunications, Systems Analysis and Development, Database systems etc.) because of wrongly named or vaguely name courses that reflect CBK content found in comparable courses across other institutions. I specifically asked the professor what course I would be qualified to teach with a supposedly IT related PhD with courses such as: Foundations of Information Systems, Seminar in Information Systems, Special Topics in Information Systems, and Seminar in Operations Management, without unclear idea of what those course contents were.

Clearly, these issues and others show that internet colleges are really only interested in getting money from their students instead of providing the type of quality education that is typical of traditional face-to-face institutions. In fact, considering they fact that they basically dump all the work for students without interest in participating in any form of teaching them or their learning, they have all the time to polish and perfect alot of the same set of complains most DL students have, yet, they continue to ignore and only focus in collecting tuition and fees, with blatant disregard for academic quality and integrity.

Let me ask: would you attend a PhD program that one of their professors say they do not know the steps required to publish? Or Would you take another course after finishing one and the professor sends you an email saying she doesn't like the course she just finished "teaching you," instead, that you should enroll in another one that she really likes? ...because like she said " I promise, you will learn alot"?

When internet schools continue to hire adjuncts that only care about money, the value, perception, and degree utility will continue to go down and this " free fall" will continue to deliver worthless pieces of paper and hope for students who invest so much to "pay them."

Enough with internet-only universities.

 

Deja Vu...Seems like I just read this post somewhere else.

 

I know folks don't have time to read long post. To attract attention to these issues, I decided to post it twice (in related topics) to make "the point" that DL programs can really be improved, and if schools listen, they can enjoy increased enrollment and better image.

 

I understand. I was just giving you a hard time for the sheer enjoyment of hassling another. Your point is valid and worth reading.

 

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Clearly this is the case...and the WASC offers regional accreditation to just any ole' school, right?