AACSB, Online, PhD = Overseas?

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  1. JeepNerd

    JeepNerd New Member

    Based on our other thread, I do think many of us would agree that a business degree from a AACSB has the "highest" desire among college recruiters for faculty members?

    Assuming that statement is true (yes I know assume means...)

    I believe the general consensus is there is no current "online" business doctorate in the USA that is AACSB. (Rumors that Nova, Tui are pursuing, but not confirmed)

    Here IS the comprehensive list of AACSB schools BY country, region, etc!

    https://www.aacsb.net/eweb/DynamicPage.aspx?Site=AACSB&WebKey=00E50DA9-8BB0-4A32-B7F7-0A92E98DF5C6

    Australia has 6 schools listed and I picked Griffith to look at closer,

    Griffith University | Doctor of Philosophy - All

    "The Doctor of Philosophy (PhD) is Griffith's premier research training degree. The PhD is awarded on the basis of a thesis prepared under supervision that makes an original, significant and extensive contribution to knowledge and understanding in the relevant field of study, as judged by independent experts applying accepted contemporary international standards. This program can be undertaken in schools and research centres."

    Department of Accounting, Finance and Economics INT_RHD_2B $20,000.00

    So it sounds like you pick the dept, and your degree is less "taught" and more research based!? (I am hoping folks that have studied under these conditions will tell us more)

    You look in United Kingdom, several more (14) programs appear to have an international flavor to them and some are "triply accredited" as well in a few cases!

    Am I missing something? A hidden residency requirement on some of them? If not....why are the US students not flocking to them?


    IS there a bias in our original question, "faculty recruitment = AACSB" that it must be a USA, AACSB?


    There is 20 programs betw UK and AUS, I am looking at those first in that they are native English speaking schools.


    What am I missing?
     
  2. JeepNerd

    JeepNerd New Member

    The schools in question. If you know of / can see a residency requirement, please indicate this, the amount, etc next to the school? (And perhaps the cost in USD?)

    AUSTRALIA
    Australian Graduate School of Management
    Griffith University
    Queensland University of Technology
    The University of Queensland
    The University of Sydney
    University of Technology, Sydney

    UNITED KINGDOM
    Ashridge Business School
    Aston University
    City University
    Cranfield University
    Durham University
    Lancaster University
    London Business School
    The Open University
    University of Glasgow
    The University of Manchester
    University of Reading
    University of Strathclyde
    University of Surrey
    University of Warwick
     
  3. JeepNerd

    JeepNerd New Member

    Griffith University - Cost is approx $20,000 for 80 CP, $250 per CP (Accounting, Finance and Econ)


    4.7 Duration of Candidature
    4.7.1 PhD
    · The minimum and maximum duration of full-time PhD candidature will be two years and four years respectively.
    · The minimum and maximum duration of part-time PhD candidature will be three years and eight years respectively


    4.10 Candidature Located away from the University – PhD/MPhil

    On the recommendation of the principal supervisor, a Dean/Deputy Dean (Research) may approve the enrolment of a candidate who will be located predominantly away from the University. A Dean/Deputy Dean (Research) may specify a minimum period during which a candidate must attend the University.


    3.5.05 Research Higher Degree Policy

    Costs:

    http://www17.griffith.edu.au/cis/p_cat/fees.asp?ProgCode=6001&FeeType=International
     
  4. novemberdude

    novemberdude New Member

    While the research only doctorate model certainly facilitates distance learning the terms "research only" and "distance" are not by any means synonymous. A few years back I contacted severa UK universities about doing a research doctorate externally and was generally told that was not possible. Some schools are open to it, some are not.

    My guess is that the more highly ranked schools will be less likely to accept a distance learing research based doctoral student.

    For the fun of it I looked on Warwick's site, which said: "There is no distance learning study option for a doctorate at WBS."

    Basically all you can do is look at each school individually and see what might be doable. Then even if they say it is not possible, you can always see if an exception might be made. That would probably involve getting a faculty member on board who would be interested in supervising you.

    Even if a school is willing to run with it you are likely to still run into residency requirements. The not highly ranked University of Plymouth told me that they would have no problem with it, and by the way the residency requirement was 4 months per year.

    My enquiries were based on law schools, not business schoos, and was a few years ago, so things may be different. But that was my experience.
     
  5. novemberdude

    novemberdude New Member

    Going from memory I believe that Aston, Cranfield and Manchester all offer business doctorates with a low residency requirement (and that is really going from memory so I could be mistaken). Open University from my understanding is not available to North Amerian based students.

    Also Grenoble is AACSB and offers a low residency doctorate in business. St Mary's University (also AACSB) in Nova Scotia offers a PhD that does not require continuous attendance but has a HEAVY residency requirement. Not terribly expensive though, and I believe the residencies reduce after a couple years. A very good choice if you have some flexibility in your schedule. Edit to add: Residency requirement is beginning of May until end of June. Might end after the 2nd year, not sure.
     
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