Quarrel with Registrar wat should I do?

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  1. jackrussell

    jackrussell Member

    My previous instructor gave me a "A". During this course we have a chance of instructor more than half way through the course which gives a lot of problems. I was 0.5 marks away from A, and the instructor said she will give me an "A"

    The registrar send me a score of A-, insisting that it was send by my instructor. I called her on the phone, the reception was bad and she hang up on me. Took me sometime to get back the A. I send an apology to her for being rude, but no reply. My new instructor has problem with the submission in Moodle, I asked the registrar for help no answer. I had no chance to correct and improve my scores.

    The courses is ok, but as a registrar, whatever inquiries I sent to her was ignored. This time not letting me correct the errors that the new supervisor marked gave me an extremely low score of A-, I just wonder what more tricks is up her sleeve. Aspen courses is ok, in fact quite tough, I really do not need such a registrar that gives me more problem. I feel like changing, having taken 4 subjects, the last is on the way.

    Any advice on should I stay or should I leave. I had tried to cool down the tempers by apologizing to her first but it doesn't seem any use.
     
  2. humbug101

    humbug101 New Member

    Not sure if on purpose or written quickly but the post is full of errors. There are tense, wrong words and others throughout.

    If you wrote like that for assignment, there is no chance you should get an A in my humble opinion.

    I hope you have someone read it before any submission.
     
  3. jackrussell

    jackrussell Member

    Apologies, was quite upset when writing it.
     
  4. b4cz28

    b4cz28 Active Member

    Coming from someone who has horrible grammar, your post made me look good. If Aspen is giving you A's then I have lost a lot respect for them. It’s clear English is not your first language. I just hope they are not taking that into consideration and scoring your papers different than a student with a better grasp of English. I have to work on my papers for days to try to pull an A and I normally only get B's.

    I not making fun of you. I just think you should be happy with an A-........Good luck to you!
     
  5. jackrussell

    jackrussell Member

    Thanks for rubbing salt to my wounds :( . It is ok, I am not offended, every says I have the hand writing and grammer of a medical doctor :)
     
  6. Ian Anderson

    Ian Anderson Active Member

    Jack,
    I sent you a PM
    Ian
     
  7. rickyjo

    rickyjo New Member

    Hey! Unless this is an English course, these comments are not relevant.

    I'm so sorry you are having trouble with this. Keep calling until somebody does something or at least offers an explanation. Have you contacted the professor?

    Best of luck.
     
  8. Ike

    Ike New Member

    I still don't understand the reason that B and A- are no longer considered good grades by students these days.
     
  9. philosophy

    philosophy New Member

    I think that we need to address the topic that is being raised here and it comes down to presentation. These issues are concerning your temperment and also how you convey yourself with others.

    In a college or university setting you need to keep your composure. In everything that you do you need to present yourself in a professional manner. There are always going to be others whether they be professors, registrars, and others who are going to make us upset from time to time. They may do things that make us tick, but what is more important is to look at the bigger picture and to realize that how we react to those given situations is going to determine how successful we will be at being able to overcome those barriers that life presents us.

    There is a poem by Chuck Swindoll that is entitled, "Attitude." 90% of life is how we deal with our attitude. Yes, there will always be people that will get us upset, but it is how we react to it that makes it either come out good or bad. The questions that you need to ask yourself is, "How am I coming across to others?" "Do I treat people with respect or do I get upset very easily?" "Is this an issue that really is worth me getting upset over?"

    Furthermore, if you have taken any type of communications class you know that there is the sender and receiver. In communications it is a two-way process. "How is my message from me (sender) and to the other person (receiver) being interpreted?" The words, terminology, and overall presentation is it presented in a clear, concise, and understandable manner?" These are the questions that you need to get answered so as to not make assumptions, but rather to get concrete and specific answers so that you can learn to overcome these hurdles.

    Many times when we think that there is a problem with others, we often find that the problem is actually ourselves. So when people on here are reacting in certain ways their trying to point out certain issues. In any environment whether work, school, or in our daily interactions with others one needs to be able to control their temper and how they react. Moreover, you also need to always present yourself in a cool, calm, and professional manner.

    So you need to ask yourself some questions and really deal with what the issues consist of. "Is the registrar really the issue?" "Could it be the way that you react to given situations by reacting to things that perhaps are trivial and getting upset right away instead of really looking at the total overall issue that needs to be addressed?" I think you honestly need to deal with your presentation and how you are coming across to others.

    Sure there have been a number of people that have come across to me and got me upset. But, I have to take a step back and make sure that I think about things before I react. I have to bite my tongue, and really think about how I am going to react and most things that come to us are really small and things that can be worked out. Mostly it is how we react to them that is going to determine the outcome.
     
  10. b4cz28

    b4cz28 Active Member

    No I am not trying to be rude, nor am I trying to rub any salt in your wounds. I just think you should be happy :) with what you got!
     
  11. Ian Anderson

    Ian Anderson Active Member

    I'm not referring to the OP with this comment but some students need to maintain a certain average to graduate and as they approach their final courses an A or two is needed to graduate.
     
  12. b4cz28

    b4cz28 Active Member

    +1 Super good post
     
  13. rickyjo

    rickyjo New Member

    I again restate my encouragement to ring the phone off the hook until somebody starts doing their job or if possible go around or over them to somebody who does not have a problem with you for whatever reason. I bet your professor could talk to somebody to get this issue taken care of. In the end, it's the professor who said action would be taken to change your grade a bit and I think your going to get the most results from that angle. This was most likely on oversight on the professor's end and any correction will almost certainly start there.

    I don't know why people are choosing to look at you like you made a mistake. We haven't got any idea and it doesn't help you with your problem, so, I for one would like to express my empathy for your situation and wish you luck!
     
  14. Maniac Craniac

    Maniac Craniac Moderator Staff Member

    I can think of a few reasons. Grade inflation. Perfectionism. Financial Aid. Graduate school admissions. etc, etc. I think we might see that a lot here because your typical DegreeInfo member is not your typical student. We not only are dedicated to our studies for dozens of hours a week, we actually spend our free time going on the internet and talking about those dozens of hours a week and asking how we can spend hundreds of more hours over the next 5 or 6 years in our studies :D

    For me, I am not so much a perfectionist as I am self-demanding. I know what I am capable of; If I accomplish less, then I know that I can only blame myself for not working harder. I do expect a 4.0 GPA, but not because I am a genius, rather, because the only thing stopping me would be myself.
     
  15. Maniac Craniac

    Maniac Craniac Moderator Staff Member

    Is this grade for your doctorate? Seriously, I think you should just be happy that you are surviving it, and not so much worry about how perfect your grades are. I mean, come on, its a DOCTORATE! :)
     
  16. rickyjo

    rickyjo New Member

    lol, Maniac may be right, it's not like you'll have to gain admittance to another school afterward. That's awesome.
     
  17. gettingthere

    gettingthere New Member

    so is this the "admin" problem you mentioned in your other thread, that has you wanting to change degree programs?

    basically, you want to leave the school because of this registrar?

    what happens when you get to the next school and you have a tough teacher that doesnt give you an A at all....and you learn you must face that teacher again?

    what if the dean of your program doesn't approve a special request?

    there will *always* be administrative woes, but you can't run from them. and you cant start your education over every time you meet someone who doesn't do as you wish.

    if all of these problems are truly due to instructor mistakes, why was the instructor not involved in helping you correct them? i find that strange. if an instructor makes a mistake, then there are avenues in place for them to rectify it. yet you dont even mention communicating with the instructor in either case before you went to the registrar. you say you were headed towards an A with the first instructor....fine, but when that person was replaced, there was still enough of the term left that your work may have slightly declined. you dont mention why the instructors were switched but it doesn't matter.

    if the instructor wasn't willing to help correct their "mistakes" , then they probably weren't mistakes. sounds more like you wanted this A but didn't earn it, so you threw a temper tantrum until you got it. (from the way you wrote the post, i see that you DID get the A in the end)
    i'm sure you put this "registrar" in a bad position--basically pushing him/her into helping you when there was nothing they could really do. because you did "have your way" in the end, i dont see the "registrar" as some evil , uncaring admin, and i dont blame them for not being as willing or communicative with you the next time you "happened" to have an "instructor problem".

    if you've gotten into and out of your subsequent courses, the registrar is doing their job. when you've pushed her into one concession for you, you probably used up your "favours". so now she's not going to be as responsive about anything that goes beyond her stated job description. this isnt a "trick up her sleeve". you got on her nerves, you were probably disrespectful and belligerent, so she's not going to be willing to "help" you in the future. you should have expected that when you threw a fit.

    so now that you've burned that bridge, you want to jump to another school so you can probably do the same thing.

    i would tell you to stay, because this would be a good life lesson for you--dealing with the consequences of your actions. but if you've gotten this far in life with the attitude of entitlement you seem to have, then this experience won't have much of an effect.
     
  18. jackrussell

    jackrussell Member

    Yes it is

    Yes, because my requests and work wasn't done and not even a reply from her. My assignments or course timing are affected.

    I will go off, simply because what the instructor gave and what she submitted are different.

    You made too many assumptions, tell your dog "Stay" but I am not your dog! I am not looking for any entitlement, I am looking at correcting an error.
     
  19. gettingthere

    gettingthere New Member

    boy o boy...
     
  20. jackrussell

    jackrussell Member

    Ah! You got me on that one :)

     
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