Higher Education's Big Lie

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  1. Maniac Craniac

    Maniac Craniac Moderator Staff Member

    Views: Higher Education's Big Lie - Inside Higher Ed

    Not a new issue, but a new article that concisely expounds upon part of why I didn't go to college right out of High School. College is really over-hyped, and I saw that on a microlevel today when a teacher polled his class "How many of you are planning on attending college next year?". Most of them raised their hands... that's right, most of the students who show up 10 minutes late for class, hand in their assignments 2 month late, get 20s on their tests, can't put their devices away for more than a 5-minute block of time, and curse the teacher out to his face when they fail are headed to the hallowed halls of higher learning!

    From the article:
     
  2. AUTiger00

    AUTiger00 New Member

    The author had me until she brought her failed politics into it and started writing about how we need unions and mandatory higher wages. She has a PhD in English, not economics. I wouldn't give credence to much (or any) of what she said.
     
  3. I agree with her identification of the problem, but not her policy prescription.
     
  4. SurfDoctor

    SurfDoctor Moderator

    It's true, MC, that a bachelor's degree no longer guarantees you a good job. Especially since, as you pointed out, most students are at least attempting to make it through college. Most of those irresponsible students will not make it through with practices like you described, though. They will end up in a city college and be stuck there. My daughter just got her AA and she has commented on how many people are there who have little chance of making it out. She says it's not that most are stupid, they are just lazy and would prefer to party rather than excel in school.
     
  5. Maniac Craniac

    Maniac Craniac Moderator Staff Member

    She quotes a credible source, the Bureau of Labor Statistics (via NY Times citation), for what I think is the most important point in the article. She also quotes a couple of sociologists for the cultural aspect of the higher ed hegemony. Her policy recommendations weren't really what I was looking at.
     
  6. AUTiger00

    AUTiger00 New Member

    I didn't mean to turn this into a political/policy discourse, but she makes her own recommendations at the end of the article (2nd to last paragraph) and they include what I mentioned.

    I don't disagree with the author that too many people are going to college without a clear understanding of what they are getting into financially and their prospects once they are done, but I don't need to hear some academic with a PhD in English wax poetic about economic issues she has no training in. If she wants to tell me something about Voltaire I'd be happy to listen.
     

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