I need some help guys. I want to start getting some credits together for my AA from TESC. This is what I have now; 25 FEMA credits PF-Information Lit -ACE reviewed 1 Credits from PF PF-Intro to Business- ACE reviewed 3 Credits from PF PF-Art Appreciation- ACE reviewed 3 Credits from PF PF-Financial Accounting- ACE reviewed 3 Credits from PF PF-Mathematics for Business and Finance- ACE reviewed 3 Credits from PF That’s what I have now. ACE says that Info Lit which PF has a 1 credit course is a sub for Eng 103, so would TESC hook me up with three credits for this class? Here is what’s required for Assc in Arts from TESC Associate in Arts Credit Distribution Subject/Category Credits I. General Education 48 A. English Composition 6 B. Humanities (must include two subject areas) 12 C. Social Sciences (must include two subject areas) 12 D. Natural Sciences 9 One college-level mathematics course (required) (3) One computer science course (strongly recommended) (3) Other natural sciences/mathematics (3) Must include at least two subject areas E. General Education Electives 9 II. Free Electives 12 Total: 60 Is the AA the best choice for me? It does not matter what the degree is in as long as I have one. What other classes will I need? Sorry for all the questions guys, I have no clue what to do! I will still be working towards my degree from Penn Foster but I know the degree I will get from them is about worthless so I really need to do what it takes to get one from TESC.
Hey! Before! No one can tell you what is best for you. This is especially true since you haven't said anything about your interests or goals. I would also like to ask you why you are actively working towards a degree that you believe is virtually "worthless." It's time to come back to earth Before and do some real homework and begin to figure out what you want and how to get there. You might start here: Lawrie Miller's BA in 4 Weeks. Online degrees by distance learning. BA degree and graduate degees - Accelerated Master Degrees by Distance Learning.
I need a degree to advance my law enforcement career. It makes no difference to me what it is in. I have to admit it would be nice to have one for personal reasons as well. I would be the first in my family to have one. But the Assoc of Arts is just their general studies degree. BTW I am here on earth...lol....I was told I only needed an accredited degree to gain the extra pay so I signed up for PF. I got done with my first semester and found out my employer will not take a DETC school...suxs...but then my friend told me about TESC so I am using the classes I am taking at PF to get my TESC degree. I know extra pay is not the best reason to want a degree, but heck with a kid on the way I will need the money.
It's B4C Z28 for the Camaro Police Package on my 2002 Camaro, I assume the b4cz28 was why you were saying before. I'm slow....so if you were joking, sorry
Extra pay is a fine reason to earn a degree. Not many of us would have done it without the prospect of a few dollars. The problem is that there are so many choices that no one can really give you advice if all you're going to say is "I don't care what my degree is..." How about a degree in Anthropology? How about Information Systems? How about Mechanical Engineering? How about Theatre? Now that we know your career track, maybe you should search the site for threads on Criminal Justice degrees. It's just a thought.
Money is as good a reason as any. It will make you a better law enforcement too...even if you're already great!
Sorry for the mix up....The degree I am planning to work towards at TESC is their Associates in Arts. I was just asking if yall though my credits would be applied better in a different program or is their Arts/General Studies my best bet, and what classes should take next to fulfill the classes they require which is in my first post. Thanks guys for taking the time to respond to me.
Sure, I'll help. I have taken your classes and placed them next to the requirements at TESC. Also, an AA in MANY universities is accepted as a block- meaning that you have instantly met all of the gen ed requirements without each credit being individually evaluated. I don't think this is worthless at all, and in fact, for many people this is a way to use a lot of alternative credit that a university wouldn't otherwise accept...and since I'll end up WAY off point, I'll just stick to your question. My words are in red. That’s what I have now. ACE says that Info Lit which PF has a 1 credit course is a sub for Eng 103, so would TESC hook me up with three credits for this class? Doubtful. I would expect TESC to award 1 credit for this. Here is what’s required for Assc in Arts from TESC Associate in Arts Credit Distribution Subject/Category Credits I. General Education 48 A. English Composition 6 B. Humanities (must include two subject areas) 12 PF-Information Lit -ACE reviewed 1 Credits from PFPF-Art Appreciation- ACE reviewed 3 Credits from PF C. Social Sciences (must include two subject areas) 12 D. Natural Sciences 9 One college-level mathematics course (required) (3) One computer science course (strongly recommended) (3) Other natural sciences/mathematics (3) Must include at least two subject areas E. General Education Electives 9 II. Free Electives 12 PF-Financial Accounting- ACE reviewed 3 Credits from PF PF-Intro to Business- ACE reviewed 3 Credits from PF PF-Mathematics for Business and Finance- ACE reviewed 3 Credits from PF 25 FEMA credits, you capped out at 3 because of your business classes, however if you decide to get your bachelor's degree at TESC in CJ or anything else, they will take the rest of your FEMA, so these are not "lost" you can instead say that you don't need them "yet." In any event, no more FEMA for you! Also, I suggest you look at the associate in business from TESC. The business classes wouldn't be free electives in that case. You actually have unused credit since business classes fill your free elective slots (which then means you have too much FEMA) but in a business degree- those classes are not electives and your FEMA would go there. I know you are going to be bummed about the math - and maybe I'm wrong- but I'm saying 99% sure that they are not going to give you "math" credit for that. It'll get credit, just not under the heading of "math." Also, have you heard of CLEP? There are pros and cons to both degree options, and I wouldn't let a little unused credit derail your plans- if you think business is a good degree option (and can pass precal and stats) then you might get the most utility TODAY with that degree. If you don't want a business degree, but are thinking maybe CJ, then I vote you stay on path for the AA. Let me know what questions you have.
Wow! Thanks you answered my questions to a tee. I was wondering about the best way to max my credits I have. I thought there might be a better option out there and it looks like the business degree might be it.
Maybe the AS from Excelsior College might fit your needs better - it allows 29 units of free electives. Details on page 20 of the liberal arts catalog. I do not know if Excelsior takes FEMA credits - maybe someone else can address that.
What are some good ways to get some credits? I am doing classes a PF and I got the FEMA certs done. I have read some about clep exams but have no idea were to take them...what are some more cheap ways to get credit?
>> CLEP is offered through The College Board (the SAT people). Free College Search | Scholarships | College Admissions Requirements and it is similar to their AP exams offered to high school students. A CLEP is generally targeted toward an adult, however there are no requirements- any age / don't need to be in college- just pay. To locate a testing center you go to the official website, hopefully you'll have a computer based center near you. The test site schedules your exam. You go in and pay 2 costs. Cost 1 is to The College Board for the exam. This is (I think still) $80. Then, the test site may charge a fee, and if they do you must write a separate check. These fees can be $0-$20 generally. So, in all, you can estimate a CLEP to be about $100 bucks. After you have studied ("how" can be for another thread) you go in and sit for your test. It is 90 minutes, multiple choice. You won't be in a group of CLEPpers, since this is your own unique time slot. When you begin, you will answer a multiple choice exam consisting of roughly 75 questions. Answer every question, there is no penalty for guessing. When you are done, you hit the "submit" button and your score pops up. If your score is higher than 50** you pass. It is simply pass/fail. There are no grades- there are no degrees of credit. A 50 is as good as a perfect score (80). NO ONE knows the % you need for a 50, that information is highly confidential- however, there is a hobby to be made of guessing. I think most will agree that it depends on the exam. When you pass, you are now in The College Board's data base of having passed. The College Board doesn't issue credit, so your score will sit until you decide to use it (send it). You may wait up to 20 years. Also, there is no limit on the number of CLEP exams you can take. The only hard and fast rule is that you can't take an exam if you have already had the exact same class. (Intro Business) When you are ready to go to college, you send The College Board $20 for an official transcript. On the transcript are all of your scores. You may opt to include/exclude any failing scores- so no worries. That transcript goes to your college(s) of choice and YOUR COLLEGE decides how much credit you get. TESC, CO, and EC all have no limit on CLEP exams. They also are straight forward on the number of credits they award. Any college you are looking at will have a policy. Simply go to a college/university website and type "CLEP" into the search feature. Some colleges restrict CLEP credit to x amount, some don't allow any CLEP credit, and others require scores higher than 50. The community college I work for allows half of the degree to come from CLEP. The advisors don't know this, it's not on their web site, and if you call they will tell you they don't offer or accept CLEP. Remember what I said about learning the rules? The fact is, that whatever you find out- you need to find a policy that is WRITTEN. I have it in writing and printed out So, a handbook, college catalog, the registrar, etc CLEP credits are 100 or 200 level, and typically award 3 or 6 credits.** All of here know exactly how you are feeling right now. CLEP rocks! Enjoy! **there are exceptions, foreign language exams allow more credit for higher scores
There are also DSST tests - similar to CLEP - one advantage is that some DSST exams are accepted for upper division credit by some schools. This site lists exams and exam taking locations. DSST - GetCollegeCredit.com
Thanks for the help everyone. I think I will stay with PF for now and keep taking ACE approved classes with them. When I get enough I will open a credit bank and start getting my FEMA banked and take some clep tests. By then I hope to make the credits match up if TESC is still around. When I called them the other day I asked the advisor on the phone about this whole thing and she told me it will never happen, TESC will stay around for a lond time....we will see.
