Hello. I am new here and just wanted to think everyone for the help they have given me so far. I have also noticed that everyone here likes to out Diploma Mills and the like. So I humbly submit www.replacementdiplomas.com Surely this one is not for real and they are operating a Mill of some sort. What do you all think?
You are very observant, Erich, but not "everyone" is likeminded. Periodically, degree mill advocates/promoters/enthusiasts/spammers/apologists/etc. try to sell their wares. But yes, for the most part, the mills are a source of humor. Welcome to the forum! Russell
The sad thing is that some folks reading this thread might actually be dimwitted enough to believe that they could buy a "lost" diploma they never earned and get away with it. It won't work, folks. Not for any length of time. The detection rate is high now, and in 3 or 4 years, it will be astronomical. Already, there are at least three major credential checking services that are completely automated... they literally have electronic links to hundreds of school registrar offices, and can determine the legitimacy of a degree in seconds. (less than 24 hours for schools that aren't electronically verified.) As such, the cost is low enough that any employer can afford to spend a few bucks to check out a claimed degree. And when the word comes back that the degree is fraudulent, not only will the applicant not get the job, but he or she may receive a visit from the police, because the use of fraudulent "replacement" diplomas is forgery. Of course, the places selling you their crap conveniently don't tell you this... and say in their poorly worded fine print that they're not responsible. But they must not completely believe this, since most hide behind anonymous ISPs, don't even have a voicemail number, and almost never have the name of a real individual in their contact information. But, surprisingly, this doesn't make them much more difficult to find. Which is why you can pretty easily determine that the folks selling these fraudulent documents aren't the sharpest people in the world to begin with, and their customers are even dumber. As for "replacementdiplomas.com": First off, the "transcript" is one of the most obviously fraudulent-looking things I've ever seen... I can't imagine anyone would believe that it's genuine. Not to mention the fact that the registrar's seal is a generic one that says "University Registrar Academic Record" without the name of the school... and the school, in this case, is a *college*, not a *university*. No one with half a brain would buy it. The diploma is even more of a joke. The sample on the website says "Be it know that" instead of the correct "Be it known that..." If it's a school that strongly believes in Ebonics, that might be intentional, but somehow I doubt it. But there's one last piece to this that all of the idiots selling fraudulent diplomas, as well as the dimwits buying them don't seem to get... Employers don't verify credentials based on looking at diplomas. I have hired dozens of people, and consulted for companies establishing HR policy for a number of other companies. I don't know of a single company where an employer has asked to see a diploma. And the smart employers, if they even care about transcripts at all, aren't going to accept one handed them by the prospective applicant... they will request an official one from the school itself. So the whole argument about whether the lettering is raised or flat, whether it's on parchment or linen, it's all a joke... except that the dimwits buying the fakes don't know this, and are being taken in by the dullards selling them. Bottom line: If you insist on committing fraud, don't waste $500 or $200 or $100 or whatever on one of these companies. Just put the degree of choice on your resume. If the employer wants to verify, and are stupid enough to ask you for the verification contact info (highly unlikely), do like the dullards running the scam diploma replacement services do, and spend $10 for a month of voicemail. This is no more or less than what these companies will do for you. Either way, you will still get fired when you're discovered, you'll still be humiliated and possibly blacklisted from your profession, and you might face prosecution for forgery or fraud... but you'll still have the $200 or whatever, which you can use as a down payment on a criminal defense lawyer.
Hi Chip, I actually had a position once at a Mental Health Center where they wanted a copy of your diploma. Never did understand that! But, I must add that this was the director that wanted the copy, the HR department had to have a transcript received from the university. Maybe the manager was simply keeping a file of diplomas. Rather unusual. But, for the rest of your post, I agree. If you want a fake diploma --- use your computer, make your own --- save the money! ------------------ Howard Rodgers
It happens. This was the practice of Corrections Corporation, employing some 14,000 people. They verified high school and/or college graduation via a copy of the diploma. Incredible. Rich Douglas
For the police pay incentive in MA, the state Board of Higher Education does ask for a copy of the diploma, but they also require sealed transcripts sent directly from the school. Bruce
And because actual diplomas are often required, the major diploma printers (Jostens, etc.) are now offering the same security systems as check printers: uncopiable microprinting, invisible-to-ordinary-light serial numbers, watermarks, and so forth. But will employers be smart enough to know or care?
