URGENT: looking to enroll for bachelor business degree

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  1. qwer

    qwer New Member

    Hi,

    May I ask the experts on here. I am looking to enroll to complete a bachelor of business degree through online universities on distance learnings.

    MY basic story is, i am 1 year away from completing my economics bachelors at UofT. However, I am unable to attend the university until 3 years later to finish the degree. I cant wait that long before I get my bachelors.

    I am looking into what online programs can enable me to complete a bachelor degree in around 2 years or less. With or without transfer credits. I dont know if my credits will be able to be transferred. any school in the usa, canada or aus is ok.


    Any suggestions on which universities/colleges to take a look at and attempt to apply for?

    I am looking for something that I can complete in around 2 years. without transfer credits is ok too, (hopefully i can transfer some, or i would of wasted 3 years of schooling), but as long as I can take exams frequently. As I have studied most of the material before in school, i believe it shouldn't be too difficult for me.

    apart from the big 3 , always mentioned here, are there more known universities/state universities that allow you to finish it within 2 years? are state universities very expensive? even for distant/online learning ? i am not a us citizen.


    Thanks all!
     
  2. TEKMAN

    TEKMAN Semper Fi!

    UofT? You're a US citizen. Do you have social security ID? There are lot of schools allow you to complete your Bachelor within a year with transfer. For example, some schools require 30 credits residency. While other schools don't require that such as Thomas Edison State College, Excelsior College, Charter Oak State College, and Athabasca University (Canada). The costs are very from school to schools.... The big three is the cheapest. Before, I can find the right school and program for you. Where is UofT?
     
  3. qwer

    qwer New Member

    University of Toronto, i only have Canadian social security.

    So completion time possible for big 3 is within a year with transfer, what about no transfer credits, i'm not sure if i can transfer my credits.
     
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  4. Kizmet

    Kizmet Moderator

  5. qwer

    qwer New Member

    also, are there schools that allow enrollment at any time, and you can start taking exams at anytime.


    How does APU compare to the big 3? In terms of the accredited, known university (accepted by employers), fees, time. basically why the big 3 is better than APU, if I have no transfer credits.

    if no transfer credits is APU a good choice?
     
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  6. major56

    major56 Active Member

    Athens State University http://www.athens.edu/academics/onlinedegree.php
    Currently, Athens State University is offering the following bachelor degrees online @ $128 per semester hour:

    Accounting

    • Human Resource Management

    • Management (with required minor)

    • Management of Technology

    • Computer Science with Computer Information Systems Option

    • Religious Studies
     
  7. TEKMAN

    TEKMAN Semper Fi!

    What's about Athabasca University? It is regional accredited institution, you can't go wrong with that. Troy University allows up to 90 credit transfer. 60 credits can be from CLEP, DANTES, Military Training and etc. Troy offers 5 terms per year, you can start any term. Each term is 10 weeks, you can take up to 5 classes if you don't have a job. If you have a job you're allowed to take up to 3 classes per term.

    So, you can complete 75 credits per year... if you have TESTING OUT you can complete within a year. I completed my in 2 years while on active duty.
     
  8. Ian Anderson

    Ian Anderson Active Member

    I looked at the Uof Toronto Economics degree and it looks like it consists mainly of Economics courses plus some math courses (maybe I missed courses in other diciplines).

    So you would have to take a full load of general education courses at most US colleges and universities - including courses in the sciences, humanities, and English. Institurions such as Excelsior would accept at least 60 units of econ into their BSLS.

    I looked at Athabascau but do not see an econ degree:
    http://www2.athabascau.ca/programs/undergraduate.php
    I suggest you contact them to see what they can suggest for you.

    The University of London (UK) has a dl BSc in econ
    http://www.londonexternal.ac.uk/prospective_students/undergraduate/lse/economics/structure.shtml
    It is mostly econ and math. You would have to check with them re transfer of your units.

    If a university does not accept all your credits you could use the residual units to earn a second BS degree.

    I wish you success in finding a degree program that meets your needs.
     
  9. daniellevine

    daniellevine New Member

    Hate to say what you told me not to say, but is wrong with the big 3? There's a reason why they are discussed frequently on these boards. Are you looking for a more prestigious school? That I can understand; otherwise, I would go with a big3 school that is experienced in dealing with your situation. Most other schools will be more expensive; but more importantly, they will limit your transfer credits. The reason big3 are popular is because they are all regionally accredited, respected, and very, very flexible. You might find that a school accepts lots of transfer credits (in theory), but then most of them will not apply to your curriculum. That is why someone said that you can probably transfer 60 credits at a big3.

    Update: I noticed that you are considering dumping your transfer credits, starting at zero, just to find the best option. In my opinion that is not a good idea. If you want a great school reputation, or a state school, here is what you should do: use all of your transfer credits at Excelsior/Big3 school that will accept all of them. Finish strong and quickly graduate. Then use this bachelor's degree to get a master's degree. It doesn't make sense to spend 2 years re-earning the same credits again. You're much better off using those two years to get a higher education. That is where you can spend that money and get the more prestigious school. And if you are worried about grad school admissions, Thomas Edison, Excelsior, and Charter Oaks are no slouches; with good grades and testing scores there is no reason why you can't get into the grad school you want.

    Personally, I would rate Excelsior over APU. The reason why is because Excelsior is an school with a building. APU is online only. Don't get me wrong, I think they are both great schools. I am finishing my bachelor's at Excelsior and considering AMU's MBA program. However, I would prefer the school to have a longer, more established history (like Excelsior) and not immediately give away that it's an online degree. In terms of employers, it's hard to say which is rated higher. In this economy, people with ivy league degrees aren't really standing out. When you factor in the transfer credit factor, it should be an easy decision for a bachelor's degree.

    Best of luck in your search.
     
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  10. DLer

    DLer New Member

  11. Ian Anderson

    Ian Anderson Active Member

    I agree this looks like a great program
    Their bisiness degree is listed on page 14 of this document
    http://online.sps.cuny.edu/catalog/Online_Course_Descriptions_Booklet.pdf
    However as I mentioned before the OP may need to earn significantly more than 30 units to earn this degree.

    Penn State has a similar program
    http://www.worldcampus.psu.edu/BachelorinBusiness.shtml
     
  12. qwer

    qwer New Member

    first off, thanks for the great replies!

    Basically, my MAIN objective is to hold my bachelors degree at the end of 2 years from now.

    IS this attainable with 0 transfer credits and 0 external tests taken (CELP DANTES etc). OR the two year period is only attainable with transfer credits. I assume I will be studying at a fast pace, almost consider me to be a full time student.


    Another point is, I am not too familiar with the US university system, I understand most bachelors are 120 credits, and each course worth between 1-6 (8?) credits. I say this because during my years in toronto, canada, UofT only required 20 credits equivilant to 20 courses taken for the bachelors degree. I'm not sure how this translates.

    How does the big 3 take into account Canadian credits?

    If they dont take any canadian or take minimal transfer credits, my biggest question is: Do I still go with the big 3?

    If no credits are transfered, is there still a benefit compared to others (tuition fees aside unless theres a HUGE difference).

    Will school fees be more expensive as I am not a US citizen?

    the second point is, how does taken those test and exams for additional credits work, will it be too complicated? With my situation, if i go with big 3, should I just transfer as much as I can and start studying w/out taking those tests? OR should I do the tests before I start applying for the schools. Any benefit for me to take the tests/exams in my situation?

    I don't want to take all the tests and end up all of them being useless.




    Re: Penn state open, will employers know right away you took an online degree program? with the word world campus? I assume the degree is worded differently to traditional programs.
     
  13. CargoJon

    CargoJon New Member

    Try Columbia College in Missouri. They do 100% DL, are relatively inexpensive, offer an accelerated schedule, and require your final 24 credits to be in-house.

    Wife goes there, is very satisfied.

    Only bummer is proctored exams.
     
  14. TonyM

    TonyM Member

    If you're starting with 0 credits and want a degree in 2 years the best places are the Big 3 schools. Othwerwise, a double-fulltime course load would be almost impossible for most...maybe 10 classes a term or so. That's not worth it. The Bain4weeks.com site shows how you can work through an Excelsior business degree in the shortest possible time. Excelsior is built for speed, and you can be working on an MBA when you would otherwise still be working on your core classes in a traditional program.
     
  15. taylor

    taylor New Member

    I wonder if people get Columbia College confused with the Ivy League Columbia University at NYC. I bumped into a girl from high school several years back and she told me she graduated from Berkeley. I was impressed but later I found out from her brother she graduated from Berkeley College in NJ not UC Berkeley. I felt somewhat deceived:confused:.
     
  16. daniellevine

    daniellevine New Member

    Well these high school kids can definitely start tricking potential employers with their credentials.

    http://www.cusd50.org/
     
  17. qwer

    qwer New Member

    in-house does not mean you have to be on-campus correct?
     
  18. qwer

    qwer New Member

    ok final decision!


    both excelsior or thomas edison state colelge will be ok?
    is there a general preference for one of them over another? if so, why
     
  19. TonyM

    TonyM Member

    The answer depends on your situation and preferences. They are both very good places, but in my opinion Excelsior is often the better choice. First, its annual fee is going to be less than half the cost of Thomas Edison. I think Excelsior's customer service is better too....but that only in my experience. Either place is fine, really, but you will almost certainly spend at least $1000 more for the first year's annual fee.
     
  20. Ian Anderson

    Ian Anderson Active Member

    Excelsior would be my first choice also (but I have not checked requirements for each college - one may suit you better than the other).
     

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