Degree in Classics/Ancient History with a minor in education?

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  1. LilKatie24

    LilKatie24 New Member

    Hi everyone I have a question is there any online college that offers a degree in classics or ancient history? I'm asking because the local colleges around me only offer American History or European History but honestly I'm more interested in ancient history meaning greek/roman/ and such or the classics. I plan on minoring in education I would love a Bachelors degree of heck even an Associates and use them as a stepping stone to eventually my Masters. I checked around and I'm just not sure I'm looking in the right place. Thanks for any help :)
     
  2. emmzee

    emmzee New Member

  3. LilKatie24

    LilKatie24 New Member

    Thanks so much, is there anything thats smaller than a masters though? I would really like a Batchelors the problem is I currently have a minimum wage job (that I'm happy to have) and live with my parents...I would love to be able to get a decent job sooner rather than later they don't mind me living here but well you know how it is. Thanks again I'll check that thread out.
     
  4. LilKatie24

    LilKatie24 New Member

    Just wanted to add I'm kinda gaga over the APU/AMU masters lol thanks for that one.
     
  5. emmzee

    emmzee New Member

    Oops sorry, I'll take a look around. Unfortunately APU/AMU doesn't offer that concentration for their BA program. :(
     
  6. LilKatie24

    LilKatie24 New Member

    I saw that to bad after I get my Batchelors I'm going straight for that degree lol.
     
  7. Ted Heiks

    Ted Heiks Moderator and Distinguished Senior Member

    The BA in Classics is offered externally by the University of London www.lon.ac.uk, Queens University of Kingston www.queensu.ca, and the University of Waterloo www.uwaterloo.edu. The Open University www.open.ac.uk offers an external MA in Classics. The University of Florida www.ufl.edu offers external programs leading to the MA in Latin (thesis required), the Master of Latin (non-thesis), and the PhD in Classics. Naturally, there is also American Military University's www.apus.edu MA in Ancient & Classical History.
     
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  8. LilKatie24

    LilKatie24 New Member

    Thanks so much. I was looking at University of London I like that you can pay monthly payments towards tuition. Do you know if they accept financial aid? I've never attended a college outside of America.
     
  9. emmzee

    emmzee New Member

    But it may be worth considering that having a bachelors degree that is more broad is not a bad thing. Like usually a bachelors degree is not super specific to one area of a discipline. So doing your BA through APU would certainly qualify you for their MA in history ... or, just doing a quick search, University of Illinois at Springfield offers an online BA in history:
    http://www.uis.edu/history/curriculum/ba.html
     
  10. LilKatie24

    LilKatie24 New Member

    I have to wonder if this is a good idea, maybe I just second guess myself to much I want to teach History so that will require me to get my teaching certification (high school) but I really would love to teach it in college so that would require a masters. Basically I'm asking what do you all think would be the quickest way? My sister is a elementary teacher and she tells me that she should of just got certified its much quicker. My friend is also a teacher and she has a masters in Economics, got certified and now teaches it just seems quicker that way. Any guidance would be much appreciated.
     
  11. Ted Heiks

    Ted Heiks Moderator and Distinguished Senior Member

    You would have to check the Free Application for Federal Student Aid (FAFSA) www.fafsa.ed.gov to see if the University of London has a FAFSA number. Good luck!
     
  12. ITJD

    ITJD Guest

    First. Awesome that you want to teach history. It's my first love too. I just got sidetracked :)

    Some thoughts:
    1. You will be able to teach elementary and secondary with a Bachelors provided you get state certified in the topic after you achieve the credential.

    2. You will be able to teach at the college level as an adjunct with a masters. You will also find that some places in the country require elementary and secondary teachers to have masters credentials in order to achieve union tenure. (Keep their gig.)

    3. You will also eventually find that there's such a glut of people with advanced history degrees looking for work that the average salary for a historian versus an advanced degree holder in another field is lower and positions are harder to latch on to

    My recommendation is to look at your local requirements for teaching. Look at the pay and the job availability and chart your career accordingly. If you're one of the noble that put what they love ahead of the bottom line, I tip my hat to you and wish you well.

    ITJD
     
  13. Ted Heiks

    Ted Heiks Moderator and Distinguished Senior Member

    The PhD is offered in Classical Civilization and Latin & Roman Studies.
     
  14. LilKatie24

    LilKatie24 New Member

    Thanks for the info. I have many certificates in Computers and I've went the route of "making more money doing something you hate rather than love" and its very hollow. I didnt even think of getting a degree in something I love which is ancient history and "Classics" is as close to that I can find. I have a few colleges around me but they only offer History as in American or Texas history and frankly I'd rather get my degree in a part of History that interest me. My friend has a Masters in Economics and teaches kindgergarden a degree in Classics vs American History couldnt hurt me much could it? Basically I know I'm not going to make enough money to drive a Benz but I will be fulfilled so to speak.
     
  15. Ted Heiks

    Ted Heiks Moderator and Distinguished Senior Member

    Bryan Feuer (ancient Greece) and Jim Jeffers (ancient Rome) are the ancient history faculty at California State University Dominguez Hills www.csudh.edu and one may take up to three sections of HUX 594 plus the thesis. Also, David A. Churchman (Middle Eastern history) teaches a section on the Ancient Near East.
     
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  16. LilKatie24

    LilKatie24 New Member

    Thanks everyone for the help. I guess now my main question is would I get hired as a teacher with a Batchelors in Classics and and being teacher certified? I'm asking because I'm a worrier lol Classics is what I want to do but I'm 25 and all I have really are certifications for computers meaning I will be minimum waging it through school.
     
  17. bazonkers

    bazonkers New Member

    I would think a well rounded BA degree in History exposing you to all areas of history would be good for your eventual certification to teach all types of classes. Once that is done, then you could specialize at the MA level.
     
  18. LilKatie24

    LilKatie24 New Member

    That's what I'm afraid of mainly I'm worried about getting a degree in just plain history because I find Texas and American history boring. I think that's due to being taught it since middle school. I just hoped a degree in Classics would suffice.
     
  19. ITJD

    ITJD Guest

    I think you'll find that collegiate level history fills in the details that primary and secondary education tends to leave out.

    As you advance you'll get more opportunity to see the synergies between historical dates and the political, social or military action on those dates and the other things going on at the same time. Yes there was a war in the late 1700s in the American Colonies.. what were the people of the times doing in response to that war..

    Those are the things that make history interesting and worthy of continued study. So in short, I'll sum up.. be careful making judgments about silos of history because you've been taught them since grade school. Once you find a good professor of history in the areas you feel most comfortable or bored, you won't be anymore.

    But it's possible you won't largely be teaching those cool new things to the kids in primary or secondary school. Curriculum is largely set in most major school systems. At most you can offer a sprinkle of color.

    As to the degree being "just" history. I'd offer up an opinion that an undergrad degree in anything is the same as a high school education in just one subject. You specialize at the masters level and above.

    Hopefully this helps.

    ITJD
     
  20. Ian Anderson

    Ian Anderson Active Member

    For a low cost degree why not look at the big three schools? You can take courses at any college (including community colleges) or take exams such as CLEP or DSST:

    COSC
    http://www.charteroak.edu/Prospective/Programs/Concentrations/History.cfm

    TESC
    http://www.tesc.edu/3593.php

    Excelsior
    https://www.excelsior.edu/Excelsior_College/School_of_Liberal_Arts/Bachelors_Degrees_in_Liberal_Arts
    Excelsior allows up to 59 units for their BS and 29 units as electives for their BA degrees - all these could be in ancient history if you can find enough courses. (and members of this degreeinfo will help locate courses for you).

    Here are the CLEP & DSST history courses:
    http://www.collegeboard.com/student/testing/clep/ex_history.html
    http://www.getcollegecredit.com/downloads/examlist.pdf

    The big three are all regionally accredited colleges and their degrees will gain you entrance to Masters Degree programs.

    Just a thought but if you want to be an expert in ancient history learning a foreign language would probably be an assert.
     

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