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    Hello,
    Has anyone ever heard of this web site "www.expertrating.com"
    Excerpt from their web site:
    "ExpertRating an ISO 9001-2000 certified company offering online certification and training services to individuals and companies in over 60 countries. Apart from having certified over 200,000 individuals since 2001, ExpertRating is also offering employee testing services to leading companies such as Ericsson, Convergys Corp., IKEA Systems and Deltek Corp. to name a few."
    I am interested in the following certifications to boost my resume:

    Kaizen Certification with Six Sigma Green Belt with Project Management with Total Quality Management Certification (save $120) $229.99

    The price is amazing, however I wonder if it's of any value.

    Please let me know what you think,
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    Despite not having any recognized accreditation, Expert Rating, makes a lot of money certifying people in a wide variety of fields. In the fitness industry, their personal trainer certification will raise eyebrows and a good laugh, and that's about it. I would save my money and look for a real course leading to a recognized certification.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pilot View Post
    Hello,
    Has anyone ever heard of this web site "www.expertrating.com"
    Excerpt from their web site:
    "ExpertRating an ISO 9001-2000 certified company offering online certification and training services to individuals and companies in over 60 countries. Apart from having certified over 200,000 individuals since 2001, ExpertRating is also offering employee testing services to leading companies such as Ericsson, Convergys Corp., IKEA Systems and Deltek Corp. to name a few."
    I am interested in the following certifications to boost my resume:

    Kaizen Certification with Six Sigma Green Belt with Project Management with Total Quality Management Certification (save $120) $229.99

    The price is amazing, however I wonder if it's of any value.

    Please let me know what you think,
    Regards,
    Pilot

    If you live or work in the USA then ASQ certfications are well regarded. They have both green belt and black belt 6-sigma certs
    http://www.asq.org/certification/right-for-you.html

    Membership in ASQ can be helpful in advancing ones career (and it looks good on a resume) - and no exams to become a member).
    http://www.asq.org/membership/why-be.../overview.html

    CSUDH also has programs that lead to these qualifuications
    http://dominguezonline.csudh.edu/programs.php
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    I know for a fact that being six sigma, TQM etc... certified is highly desirable in today's job Market. What I am not sure about is if employers really pay attention to who is the certifying organization.in the case of "expert rating" they have a long list of fortune 500-1000 company employees who have been certified through them... therefore it lends some credibility..
    As far as I am concern If I can learn a few things that I can apply, and do it for the least amount of time and money and add value to my marketability than it's a big win.
    But then again some companies might look at these totally differently.....
    I'd like to know your thoughts
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    Knowing nothing about Six Sigma certifications myself ... I guess the question is, is there some sort of regulation (if so, by who?) of giving out Six Sigma certifications, or can anyone just put up a website and offer them for $9.99?

    If there is regulation, then it should be easy to check whether Expertratings.com is authorized by whichever body does that.

    If there is no real regulation, then the value of the certification would be entirely tied to the perceived credibility of the organization handing it out, in which case the certification from Expertrating would be worth less than from, say, CSUDH.
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    Quote Originally Posted by emmzee View Post
    Knowing nothing about Six Sigma certifications myself ... I guess the question is, is there some sort of regulation (if so, by who?) of giving out Six Sigma certifications, or can anyone just put up a website and offer them for $9.99?

    If there is regulation, then it should be easy to check whether Expertratings.com is authorized by whichever body does that.

    If there is no real regulation, then the value of the certification would be entirely tied to the perceived credibility of the organization handing it out, in which case the certification from Expertrating would be worth less than from, say, CSUDH.
    You've hit this one directly on the head. There is currently no governing body over six sigma certifications so, essentially, anyone can certify anyone they would like. However, as previous posters have mentioned, ASQ is perhaps held in the highest regard and are the only organization with the right to issue the ASQ CSSBB (Certified Six Sigma Black Belt). There has been talk about the Pyzdek institute working to become the "premier" issuer of SS certifications but there is nothing official as of yet.
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    Quote Originally Posted by _T_ View Post
    You've hit this one directly on the head. There is currently no governing body over six sigma certifications so, essentially, anyone can certify anyone they would like. However, as previous posters have mentioned, ASQ is perhaps held in the highest regard and are the only organization with the right to issue the ASQ CSSBB (Certified Six Sigma Black Belt). There has been talk about the Pyzdek institute working to become the "premier" issuer of SS certifications but there is nothing official as of yet.
    If there are no governing body and given the fact that Expert Rating has provided training and certifications to numerous fortune 500/1000 companies that in itself should be sufficient as far as respectability when listed on a resume.
    I agree that it definitely does not hold the same value as ASQ or any accredited university program, but that's not what I am after...
    The fact remains that these certifications might put anyone of us on top of the list by a potential employer..
    What are your thoughts?
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    I note that I could earn an Expert Babysitting certificate from Expert Ratings for only $14.95 http://www.expertrating.com/certific...tification.asp

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    Some of these certifications would definitely be more useful than the others ... I'm not sure I trust someone with my medical care who has a $9.95 online certificate in "Paramedic Skills" ...

    http://www.expertrating.com/certific...medic-test.asp
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pilot View Post
    If there are no governing body and given the fact that Expert Rating has provided training and certifications to numerous fortune 500/1000 companies that in itself should be sufficient as far as respectability when listed on a resume.
    Continuing along the lines of your logic, if a college had no governing body and awarded unaccredited degrees to numurous Fortune 500 employees that in itself would likewise be sufficient as far as respectability when listed on a resume.

    In my view there are few, if any, global certifications with validity or recognition, which extends to Expert Rating Global Certifications.

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    I think the point is missed, or it is a just a different point of view.

    The aim is not to receive the best quality education or to be certified by the most recognized etc...institution.
    The purpose is to give an edge to a job seeking indivdual in this very though Market;
    Given this economy thinking out of the box and adding certifications that are seen by employer as desirable may make a difference between putting food on the table or making that car payment etc...
    As far as legitimacy goes, the fact that there are no accrediting agency and that expertrating has been chosen by numerous fortune companies to provide training for their employees is sufficient enough not to discredit the applicant if a company goes as far as verifying the issuer of the certification;
    If the whole employment is based solely on this type of certification than that is a whole other story, however if the applicant is already a holder of an accredited degree with substantial or meaningfull experience in a field, which by the way probably apply to lot of us in this forum, then having what is perceive as desirable training/certification can potentially make a difference in getting the Job.
    Let's keep the discussion going
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pilot View Post
    ... expertrating has been chosen by numerous fortune companies to provide training for their employees ...
    Just to be clear, this is not what ExpertRating claims, nor is it (as far as I know) true. They say on their website "ExpertRating has certified Several thousand individuals who are working with leading companies across the US and other countries." This doesn't mean that any Fortune 500 companies chose ExpertRating, or even recognize ExpertRating as being legitimate. All it means is that at least one employee of, say, Burger King (one of the companies on their list) at one time took at least one course through ExpertRating. This does not constitute endorsement by the company that they work for.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pilot View Post
    As far as legitimacy goes, the fact that there are no accrediting agency and that expertrating has been chosen by numerous fortune companies to provide training for their employees is sufficient enough not to discredit the applicant if a company goes as far as verifying the issuer of the certification;
    You are reaching by asserting that it has been chosen by Fortune 500 companies. My speculation is that many companies have hired employees that have produced unaccredited credentials. Because a company may have done so and not know the credential was invalid, is not the equivalant of endorsing it. Thus, the reasoning would be that it was not "chosen" by the companies that hired those employees.

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    Here is the excerpts and links from the website:

    "Below are some of the companies that trust ExpertRating with solutions to their pre-employment and skill evaluation requirements"
    Stanford University, GAP, UPS, Fox News,Ericson, Ikea,AON, the list goes on....
    http://www.expertrating.com/employer...rslist.asp#a11

    "How ExpertRating helped leading companies with their testing needs"

    http://www.expertrating.com/employers/successtories.asp

    There are many other interesting links
    here is a review from the site top 10 reviews
    http://website-tutorials-review.topt...ng-review.html

    And below is what wikipedia says about about the top 10 review site.
    http://website-tutorials-review.topt...ng-review.html

    Based on the info above I think it has enough legitimacy and will not be thought of as a diploma mill by a potential employer.
    The worst case scenario will be to be seen as subpar compared to say "ASQ"... I think therefore that the theory is still valid, it can be a value added when applying for a job that considers this type of training or certifications as desirable...
    Lets keep the discussion going
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    Sorry here is the Link to wikepedia about the top10reviews site
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TopTenReviews
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    From my professional neck of the woods:

    I'm amazed that they are so bold as to offer "translation" certification to and from a few languages. That's incredibly ambitious (audacious?), especially considering that they are nothing more than multiple choice tests. Real interpreter/translator exams require either a live performance test or a written translation test, each to be reviewed by a panel of experts .

    There are a few translation certifications that are considered valid internationally. One of them, here in the USA, is the American Translator's Association. ExpertRating is not at all on this same level, so it annoys me that thet have a "translation" certificate in the same way that a few of their other tests should annoy healthcare professionals.

    That being said- if one were to consider these to be simple language proficiency tests for customer or community service (which, in itself, makes no sense because ExpertRating does have basic language proficiency tests), there are also many more respectable ones of better stature, eg Berlitz and ATAFL. The latter has been even been evaluated by ACE for college credit.

    There may be a place for these exams [sings] somehoooow, somewheeeeere [/sings], but it would neither be in the language field, nor, in theory, the buisness or human services fields.

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