Thread: NCU vs TUI - delivery format and academic level

Hi,
I am a TUI MBA graduate and am in the process of applying to NCU and TUI Phd programs. I would like find out about the delivery methods of TUI and NCU for their Phd programs. Also with like to find out about academic levels and research requirement. An example of syllabus would be helpful. Since I am about to spend so much money and time on this. I want to take on the most challenging program. Comments from students in any one of these programs are welcome.

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Originally Posted by jampedro

Hi,
I am a TUI MBA graduate and am in the process of applying to NCU and TUI Phd programs. I would like find out about the delivery methods of TUI and NCU for their Phd programs. Also with like to find out about academic levels and research requirement. An example of syllabus would be helpful. Since I am about to spend so much money and time on this. I want to take on the most challenging program. Comments from students in any one of these programs are welcome.

Here's a paste of a thread about NCU.
http://forums.degreeinfo.com/showthread.php?t=32582

Is TUI a RA school? I looked up their accrediting body and I didn't recognize it, but I'm no expert. I know that NCU is regionally accredited. I
I'm starting a PhD at NCU in January.

I got my masters from TUI (which is RA and was the "online" part of Touro College in NY when I was in the program) and did not like the lack of books. That is the only problem I had with the program. I recently took a finance class and it is still the same as it was when I was in the masters program in 2004 - I liked the paper writing but still - no books.

I went with the NCU PhD for a few reasons over TUI.
1) I like books
2) TUI did not have concentrations at the time
3) The way the semesters worked, cost of classes, and the continuous enrollment rule, it would have cost me money out of pocket
4) They were not accepting new students due to being short staffed

I thought TUI had a streaming video requirement for the PhD but I could be wrong and that was a long time ago.

NCU is as follows - get the book, get the syllabus, do the assignments. No discussions like TUI and the papers are not as structured like TUI. At TUI there are 10 papers due for each class. NCU has a different number of papers due depending on the class. Some were 4 some were 10.

Thanks. Yes TUI is regionally accredited

Originally Posted by Randell1234

I got my masters from TUI (which is RA and was the "online" part of Touro College in NY when I was in the program) and did not like the lack of books. That is the only problem I had with the program. I recently took a finance class and it is still the same as it was when I was in the masters program in 2004 - I liked the paper writing but still - no books.

I went with the NCU PhD for a few reasons over TUI.
1) I like books
2) TUI did not have concentrations at the time
3) The way the semesters worked, cost of classes, and the continuous enrollment rule, it would have cost me money out of pocket
4) They were not accepting new students due to being short staffed

I thought TUI had a streaming video requirement for the PhD but I could be wrong and that was a long time ago.

NCU is as follows - get the book, get the syllabus, do the assignments. No discussions like TUI and the papers are not as structured like TUI. At TUI there are 10 papers due for each class. NCU has a different number of papers due depending on the class. Some were 4 some were 10.

Are you saying that TUI required more work? Other than having books, how does the content and academic level of the courses compare in your opinion?

Originally Posted by jampedro

Are you saying that TUI required more work? Other than having books, how does the content and academic level of the courses compare in your opinion?

I would not say one is more work then another - just different. At TUI you know that you will have a Session Long Project and a Case Study due every other week and a paper for each (something like 1-3 pages and 3-5 pages) totaling about 35-50 pages per class. At NCU, there is not the same structure. One class had 2 papers due (minimum 15 pages each) while another class had 6 papers due (10-12 pages each).

Originally Posted by jampedro

Hi,
I am a TUI MBA graduate and am in the process of applying to NCU and TUI Phd programs. I would like find out about the delivery methods of TUI and NCU for their Phd programs. Also with like to find out about academic levels and research requirement. An example of syllabus would be helpful. Since I am about to spend so much money and time on this. I want to take on the most challenging program. Comments from students in any one of these programs are welcome.

What business discipline is of interest to you?

According to emails received from NCU the school seems determined to keep students enrolled in a new course every 12-weeks to 16-weeks and any breaks from study must be approved in advance by the school. NCU calls this 'continuous enrollment'. Just something to be aware before you make a final decision on where you earn your doctorate degree.

Originally Posted by sentinel

According to emails received from NCU the school seems determined to keep students enrolled in a new course every 12-weeks to 16-weeks and any breaks from study must be approved in advance by the school. NCU calls this 'continuous enrollment'. Just something to be aware before you make a final decision on where you earn your doctorate degree.

I always take 30 days off between classes.

Originally Posted by Dave Wagner

What business discipline is of interest to you?

General Management - Negotiation and Conflict Resolution - This was my MBA concentration

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Originally Posted by Randell1234

I always take 30 days off between classes.

Do you take one or two courses at a time? Can't start courses whenever you like or is there a fixed semester schedule?

Originally Posted by jampedro

Do you take one or two courses at a time? Can't start courses whenever you like or is there a fixed semester schedule?

One class at a time and they start the first of every month.

Originally Posted by jampedro

General Management - Negotiation and Conflict Resolution - This was my MBA concentration

OK. If I may ask a few clarifying questions... How old are you? What do you plan to do with the doctorate? Why are you considering only these two schools? Have you considered other schools with short residencies? Also, since you know all about TUI University, why even consider another school? (You might pick a dud next time...)

Originally Posted by Dave Wagner

OK. If I may ask a few clarifying questions... How old are you? What do you plan to do with the doctorate? Why are you considering only these two schools? Have you considered other schools with short residencies? Also, since you know all about TUI University, why even consider another school? (You might pick a dud next time...)

Good questions Dave. There are a number of reasons.
1. Age: 46
2. Increase knowledge and experience of doing research - crictical thinking, etc.
3. Increase job compentancies
4. I also want to spend sometime teaching business part time at a university.
5. I am not serously considering school with residences now. I live in Norway. But I would not elminate them yet.
6. I work fulltime and need the flexiblity.
7. I was very happy with TUI and learn alot.

However, I would like to take on the most challenging Phd..program, my pocket book can afford. So I am still open to any school...that require a lot and where I will feel the push to do more.. Since I will have to spend so much money on this..

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Originally Posted by jampedro

Good questions Dave. There are a number of reasons.
1. Age: 46
2. Increase knowledge and experience of doing research - crictical thinking, etc.
3. Increase job compentancies
4. I also want to spend sometime teaching business part time at a university.
5. I am not serously considering school with residences now. I live in Norway. But I would not elminate them yet.
6. I work fulltime and need the flexiblity.
7. I was very happy with TUI and learn alot.

However, I would like to take on the most challenging Phd..program, my pocket book can afford. So I am still open to any school...that require a lot and where I will feel the push to do more.. Since I will have to spend so much money on this..

Hi. Thanks. Honestly, you're pretty old to start a Ph.D. program, especially if you encounter a bunch of narcissists and a culture of prevention that drag everything out for 5, 6, 7, or even 8 years... Moreover, you don't really need the Ph.D. for anything you have planned. Still, dreams are dreams, yawn, as Randell will predictably jump in here and say at some point...

Recommendation: savor your TUI University MBA for awhile and try to get some experience teaching to see if you really want to put your entire life on hold indefinitely to work on a Ph.D. How about a second masters degree in another discipline? How about trying to write a book based on your considerable experience?

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You're never too old to get a PhD!

Before choosing I would ask about

class sizes: you don't want to be in a class of one
faculty background : if they all gaduated from this school, don't go
rigor of classes: many schools have weak classes and a rigorous dissertation,
so you are not prepared
what other folks are doing since graduation