I will finish my MBA (from Touro) in March and I will start my PhD shortly thereafter. I am interested in any advice some of you have (especially from those in the program) for a "newbie." Thanks, Gary Brown
IMHO it is better to obtain the PhD from a different school. This is also the case in the progression of BS to Masters to PhD. I was told this when I started work on my masters at the same institution from which I earned the BS. Seems that most people believe that you have a broader base of knowledge. The case from my BS in accounting to the MBA was 2 more courses of everything I took in the BS program from the same instructors in the same class room. When I received the Masters in Counseling I looked for another venue for the PhD. Just a thought. ------------------ Howard Rodgers
Thank you, Howard, for your prompt reply. I have a B.S. from Embry-Riddle Aeronautical University, soon to have an M.B.A. with a concentration in Information Technology Management from Touro. I like the format and intend to continue. My long term goal is to perform research and teach business (management, in particular) and ITM. I will complement the business PhD with graduate level education courses. The SOCED program gives me the opportunity to use DANTES TA for selected courses leading to a teaching certificate. I can also use these courses toward an M.Ed. from University of Alaska, Fairbanks. I will use this experience to build a foundation for post retirement (Army - 2009) employment. So: upon retirement I should have a BS, MBA, M.Ed., PhD and about 7 years of teaching/research experience. This should make me a prime candidate for many jobs.
Hello, I guess I will be in the same boat with you. I will be starting my PhD at Touro in March. I have heard that it is sometimes more desirable to have degrees from different schools. But, DL learners seem to be looking for the most convenient program. By all indications, Touro seems to be a good choice. Did you take two classes at once in your MBA? ------------------ Darren Cross BSB-Management, UoP MBA-Fontbonne College
I had a non-business B.S. so I had to take 3 extra classes for my degree. I took two classes the first term and three every term since then, for a total of 11 classes. It was, and still is, challenging. I have a flexible work schedule and no kids - made it easier for me. I can work when I want and sluff off a bit every now and then. The assignments are sometimes difficult, but not impossible. The majority of my time is spent researching the topic. The background needed to answer the questions, for me, is the most difficult part. It's hard to formulate a theory without the prerequisite knowledge. This helped me learn to enjoy research; therefore, I plan to continue with the PhD. There are students at Touro, like U of Phx, who desire nothing more than the minimum to achieve that little piece of paper at the end of the journey. There are others that enjoy the journey itself. I'm one of those.
Gary, Is the M.Ed. at UAF a distance learning masters? Good luck with your PhD. May I suggest you start on the dissertation the day you enroll, informally, of course. ------------------ Howard Rodgers
Originally posted by Howard: Gary, Is the M.Ed. at UAF a distance learning masters? Good luck with your PhD. May I suggest you start on the dissertation the day you enroll, informally, of course. Nope. It's not DL, but I can take a couple of the classes via DL. I plan to start my dissertation proposal in March. The research will take the longest! Thanks for the "good luck." The way the Army Tuition Assistance program works: you can get TA for one Associate, one Bachelor, one Master degree. That's it. No more. The TA covers 75% of tuition up to 187.50 per semester hour. The only exception to the rule is for those courses leading to a teaching certificate...so I will get TA for those courses. I'm using my GI Bill benefits for the PhD courses and a tuition discount for being a Graduate Assistant.
Excellent program! Highly recommended! With a large family, children and a hectic professional life I found TUI's Ph.D. to be somewhat flexible in accommodating my demanding lifestyle. I found the doctoral research courses to be very interesting. Moreover, the Effective University Teaching course (BUS606 - elective) is quite helpful if you want to work in academia. The eboard (live conference) system is an invaluable tool to share thoughts and discuss critical topics with your professors and peers especially that the Ph.D. is a very lonely process. If you do not have a solid background in statistics, my advise to you is to enroll in BUS600 (I think it is compulsory now). All in all, the program is rigorous but quite interesting. Having no kids is definitely an advantage during this lengthy process. I will be starting my dissertation phase very soon. With a dedicated effort you should be able to complete your Ph.D. in 36 or 42 months. Avoid taking two courses at a time unless you can spare a min. of 3 to 4 hours per day. In case you do try to combine a major course with an elective. Hope this helps, Eli
Avoid taking two courses at a time unless you can spare a min. of 3 to 4 hours per day. In case you do try to combine a major course with an elective. I'm planning on BUS 601 (or 600 if it's required now) and BUS 606. Dr. Gold approved my request to become a GA as an exception to the rule - probably because I've been with TUI for so long. According to Dr. Eveland, BUS 600 isn't a required class, yet. Maybe next term, though. I figure to finish the academics in 5 terms (2 per term) and follow with the 4 terms of dissertation requirements for a total of about 27 - 30 months. Someone else suggested starting the dissertation (unofficially) early...what do you think? Will TUI frown on that, or will I end up recreating much of the work? Thanks, Gary
Someone else suggested starting the dissertation (unofficially) early...what do you think? Will TUI frown on that, or will I end up recreating much of the work? Thanks, Gary [/B][/QUOTE] Hi Gary, I do not advise starting the dissertation un-officially because you will find yourself changing great deal of it while taking BUS601, 603 and 609. My advise is to start seriously thinking about it while (or before) enrolling in BUS609 (Integrative Project). Good luck.. Eli
Gary, Check school policy.....do you pay while you are working on the dissertation? If so, you better start early and continue steadily. If you don't pay after the course work then you can take your time. Remember, the process is to educate yourself, but from the school's prospective it is all about money. ------------------ Howard Rodgers
Yes, you are required to enroll in a dissertaiton studies class for four consecutive terms AFTER completing all other classes and being designated a PhD candidate (a.k.a. ABD). Each class is two hours or a total of $4000 for the dissertation process. I don't mind that because I have the GI Bill and I can still take a few other classes I'm interested in during that time. Gary
Just an update: Touro replaced BUS 699 with the series BUS 701, BUS 702, . . . BUS 712. Ph.D. candidates should register for the course with the same final digit as the number of sessions they have been a candidate. For example, if this is the first session in the dissertation phase, student should register for BUS 701. If this is the third session for him/her, he/she should register for BUS 703, and so on. The course is otherwise unchanged. Eli
Thanks for the update. Now for some more good news for the military types out there: TUI gives you a $100 per credit tuition discount for PhD level courses. So, each course costs $1600 instead of $2000. They don't advertise it on their site (I couldn't find it, anyway) but I was notified upon registering for next term. Gary
