Which of these would you be likely to hire?

Thanks to everyone who replied to my last thread. Anthony P gave some advice that has caused me to rethink which doctorate I want to go for. Three questions:

1. The education industry is in a shambles here is California; does anyone think it would pay to get a PhD in Education? Would there be adjunct jobs out there anywhere?

2. Walden offers a DBA in Marketing. Would you hire someone with that?

3. I've pasted below a list of PhD's I could go for at Capella. Does anyone have any suggestions of which degrees would be best for landing continued adjunct or online adjunct positions?

Business and Tech
Accounting (not sure I could handle this)
General Business
Information Technology
General Information Technology
Information Assurance and Security
Information Technology Education
Project Management
Organization and Management[/U]
General Organization and Management
Human Resource Management
Information Technology Management
Leadership
Management Education
Project Management

School of Education
Curriculum and Instruction
K–12 Studies in Education
Instructional Design for Online Learning
Leadership for Higher Education
Leadership in Educational Administration
Postsecondary and Adult Education
Professional Studies in Education
Special Education Leadership
Training and Performance Improvement

Thanks again for all the suggestions! Kind regards, Mike

 

Mike,

I will try to put this very simple: If you go for a PhD, make sure it is in an area where your heart and passion are. It is too much of a road to travel to get it in something that you are "not sure you could handle". If it is not in your blood, you may not make it. As yourself this: what burning question would you like answered that no one has done the research to answer? Then, ask yourself: Would I want to do the research? If the answer is yes, that is the field you should consider.

I have thought about accounting many times for a grad certificate or masters and realized...I hate accounting and would suck as a student and be even worst as a teacher. Does any of this make sense?

 

Me too!

LOL I hate accounting too. I agree; you could walk into a good professor job with a doctorate in accounting, but that's almost a "fate worse than death" for me.

 

Do you have a background in accounting? It might not be feasible to be accepted into a DBA accounting program without such a background.

 

Yea, accounting is probably the one thing I couldn't handle. Mostly for the sake of my sanity. Thanks for asking.

 

Good advice. I would also say that the math behind earning a Ph.D. for adjunct work doesn't really work out: so you're going to spend $50K for tuition and lose out on $500K of earning opportunities so you can earn a few hundred dollars more per class beyond a masters degree? The math doesn't work for the Ph.D. student who would use it for its only real purpose, teaching.

 

Also, once these online universities discover they can hire Indian, Russian, and Chinese Ph.D.s to grade papers from their home countries, you're going to be facing outsourcing issues...

 

I hope not. It would destroy their creditability to outsource those jobs to other countries, I would think. Ok for customer service and tech support, not OK for universities.

 

*oraculating* It will be a step by step transformation... first they will probably provide only classic TA tasks and than slowly move on into tasks with more competancies. Arguments like "we have students from all over the world, so why don't we have academia from all over the world too" will come up and the classic "where can i earn the cheapest mba" crowd will certainly flock that place. The first university's degree might be "subtil" mocked in "traditional" academia as "3rd world mba" but slowly other universities will take advantage of theres "exciting new opportunities"...

 

Universities would not be able to keep their accreditation if they did those sort of things. Non-academic institutions don't answer to an accrediting body so they can outsource. Remember, universities have a watchdog hovering over them. The Higher Learning Commission, or other accrediting bodies, would not support using outsourced professors. The quality of the instruction would be called into question. Cheap, foreign labor does not work for education.

 

Thanks to everyone who replied to my last thread. Anthony P gave some advice that has caused me to rethink which doctorate I want to go for. Three questions:

1. The education industry is in a shambles here is California; does anyone think it would pay to get a PhD in Education? Would there be adjunct jobs out there anywhere?

2. Walden offers a DBA in Marketing. Would you hire someone with that?

3. I've pasted below a list of PhD's I could go for at Capella. Does anyone have any suggestions of which degrees would be best for landing continued adjunct or online adjunct positions?

1 Not in California

2 Try Rainbird (Los Angeles & AZ) Target 150K Hiring now!

3 Stick with #2


Cheers

 

This is precisely why I am no longer at Cal State San Bernardino (even though I loved the people). There are a growing number of online graduate programs in education, but the comptition is fierce. You would need a good vita showing both successful teaching experience and scholarship.

Faculty with marketing degrees (plus practical marketing experience) are one of the most difficult for us to find. I would certainly be interested.

The ones with the asterisks are the greatest needs that I am seeing. In education, special ed is definitely the "hottest" area all accross the country.


Business and Tech
Accounting (not sure I could handle this)**
General Business
Information Technology
General Information Technology
Information Assurance and Security
Information Technology Education
Project Management
Organization and Management[/U]
General Organization and Management
Human Resource Management**
Information Technology Management**
Leadership
Management Education
Project Management

School of Education
Curriculum and Instruction
K–12 Studies in Education
Instructional Design for Online Learning**
Leadership for Higher Education
Leadership in Educational Administration
Postsecondary and Adult Education
Professional Studies in Education
Special Education Leadership**
Training and Performance Improvement

Thanks again for all the suggestions! Kind regards, Mike[/QUOTE]

 

I'm just throwing this out there: Walden and Capella are both pretty expensive online-only schools. (Not that there is anything wrong with that!) You live in California, which means you are eligible for in-state tuition in what is probably the most education-friendly state in the US. Wouldn't it pay off to shop around your local Cal States, UCs, etc. before looking at Capella?

 

Accrediting bodies would never go for this sort of thing.

 

Thanks for the suggestion. I'd like to do that but I already work full time as a teacher and wouldn't be able to attend classes.

 

Shhh!!! This needs to wait at least another 5 years until after I receive my doctorate and get my foot in the door.

 

Ah, the great achievements of diploma mills. What a wonderful thing they are for the education industry! http://www.degreeinfo.com/images/smilies/smile.gif I'm glad we have accrediting bodies to protect us from legit universities doing that sort of thing.

 

Faculty with marketing degrees (plus practical marketing experience) are one of the most difficult for us to find. I would certainly be interested.

Anthony, I have 20 years of marketing three separate small businesses that I have started and sold. I worked very hard marketing these business and was successful with each. I don't have any experience in the marketing department of a large corporation.

Would my experience, combined with a DBA in Marketing, make me... uhh....marketable? As an online adjunct, that is.

 

VERY likely...

 

Unless US accreditation bodies specifically ban, or limit, the use of outsouced faculty then it is possible this is already occuring.

Medical evaluations of US radiology images are done in Europe and Asia and I don't see any large scale opposition to this practice (except by US radiologists.
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