NCU's DBA Accounting

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  1. okydd

    okydd New Member

    I have made my decision; it is going to be NCU’s DBA in Accounting. Hopefully within the next month I will begin my studies. I am just waiting for someone from NCU to get back to me on Monday to sort out a few things.
    I got myself a part-time job to pay for this. So I will be very busy for the next few years with a full & PT job and studying for a DBA. Goodbye life.
     
  2. me again

    me again Well-Known Member

  3. Dave Wagner

    Dave Wagner Active Member

    Best wishes as you start you new venture! If you don't mind me asking, what do you plan to do with the doctorate, once you have completed it? In other words, what is your underlying motivation for embarking on such a journey?
     
  4. tomball

    tomball New Member

    good luck.....
     
  5. okydd

    okydd New Member

    Thank you very much for the encouragement
    The Doctorate is more of a personal journey. It may benefits me professional in the future, but that’s secondary. I did not calcutated ROI etc because it was not relevant to my decision.
    I am very excited like a kid in a candy store.
    Thanks
     
  6. Dave Wagner

    Dave Wagner Active Member

    Danger...! Earning a doctorate is personal and it is a journey, but it is not a fun personal journey; it has a very specific purpose for college teaching and research. If you don't need it, how will you muster the motivation to finish? You have to really need it to get it.
     
  7. okydd

    okydd New Member

    Thank you very much for the positive reinforcement. I also wish you the best of luck in your endeavours
     
  8. Dave Wagner

    Dave Wagner Active Member

    I'm not sure you've understood my point about what you are getting yourself into... but I do wish you well.
     
  9. Randell1234

    Randell1234 Moderator

    Dave,
    While there is some merit to your point, it is not exactly true. You can make everything and anything "fun". I don't "need" a doctorate but I am getting one. Sometimes what you want is more powerful then what you need. I want to earn a PhD so I have options to only teach, I want to turn my dissertation into a book, I want the PhD after my name to help sell the book, I want to say I did something that only 2% of the population has done. I don't need any of these things but what I want is a big enough motivator.

    Everyone is different and motivated by different things. Sometime external forces and sometimes internal forces. Maybe I am just reading too much into your word of "need".
     
  10. me again

    me again Well-Known Member

    That is very true. At the time I enrolled in the NCU doctoral program, I didn't need a doctorate per se, but I wanted it because it was a dream. The dream was almost shattered and I barely made it through the program; and that's why I encourage most potential candidates to not pursue a doctorate. But if it's your destiny to be a doctor, then nothing can stop you. :eek:

    A doctorate is supposed to be evidence that you are a researcher. I cannot emphasize how hard the requirements are to be a researcher. It is the epitome of academia.

    Research!!!!
     
  11. adireynolds

    adireynolds New Member

    I'm going to echo Randell's point here. I, too, don't need a doctorate. I have a great career, a nice income, and have no desire to move back into academia fulltime (maybe in the distant future, but even that's a maybe). However, for personal reasons, I've wanted one since I was a child, as I wanted to emulate my father. Now, however, I'm doing it for myself -- because I want to have the satisfaction of what I consider to be a great accomplishment, and now that I'm very deep into the process and truly understand what it takes to become a scholar-researcher, I want to learn and obtain those skills just for my own edification.

    Will the Ph.D. help me in my future, career-wise? Probably, given the field I am in, but also probably not directly. However, the money, time, sacrifice, stress, and so on are all worthwhile investments to me on a personal level to achieve this goal.

    Cheers,
    Adrienne
     
  12. RFValve

    RFValve Well-Known Member

    Good luck in your journey. However, as you have so many good solid credentials, why did you choose NCU? As I notice that you are in Canada, I hope you realize that a DBA from NCU wouldn't do much for you for Academic positions. I wonder why did you decided to go for NCU to top your excellent credentials instead of going for a more solid doctorate that might keep the doors open for a tenure track position as you already have done so much in your life.
    A piece of advice would be to get a better doctorate even if it takes longer and cost more. I really don't see the point to invest in something that just give you the right to call yourself doctor.
     
  13. Dave Wagner

    Dave Wagner Active Member

    I understand. However, but in a sense you're stating that you now need the doctorate to teach, research, and "market" your ideas; those activities are what the degree is for... and seemingly sufficient motivators to complete a doctorate somewhere.
     
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  14. geoffs

    geoffs Member

    Keep me posted, be interested to see how say most of their ACC7000s differ from your PACE courses at CGA.

    Even more interested if it was accepted for teaching in Canada.
     
  15. geoffs

    geoffs Member

    RFValve,

    Canada, the US or anywhere....an accountant with an MBA to teach is fine, an Accountant with a DBA is like GOLD!

    See this

    Automatic Job
    or this

    The shortage is real. I have taught even 4th year university (full time/non tenure) with only an Undergrad, and that practice continues (pay is better at community colleges tho).

    We see here a candidate that has his designation, got an MBA for only 5 courses (was double the price of aspen when I prepaid) and has a HUGE resume.

    I say good luck to him, but the DBA in Advanced Accounting...well I would love to know the rigour of those courses.
     
  16. Randell1234

    Randell1234 Moderator

    I don't need it to do most of the things I listed but it would be a help. I already teach, I could write a book without it, etc...I guess there is a fine line between need and want.
     
  17. RFValve

    RFValve Well-Known Member

    For the same reason, I think it is better to top your education with a better degree. As the demand for accounting PhDs is increasing, you have a good chance to become a professor with an average degree, why ruin your chances with NCU? I think because the shortage, it is worth trying for a tenure track with a DL degree from a more credible school like Athabasca or Nova.
     
  18. Randell1234

    Randell1234 Moderator

    How very kind of you...
     
  19. RFValve

    RFValve Well-Known Member

    Randell,

    I did not mean to disrespect you. NCU might be a good option for American residents as you have tons of small and private Universities that might be open to NCU graduates. We only have few government Universities with very conservative faculty, I have been in few hiring committees for faculty and most are not very open to for profit online doctoral education. The issue of distance or external is not really an issue but the name of the school, any government school would be fine but the for profit online school is a hard sell. I just don't see anytime soon a DBA from NCU teaching as a tenure professor at the University of Toronto, UBC, U of Ottawa or McGill University. I have seen few people with degrees from places that offer external education like Bradford(UK) but I'm yet to see a tenure professor from UoP, Walden, TUI even at faculties with shortages like accounting.
     
  20. geoffs

    geoffs Member

    Well said! Although I know one who had a Ph.D in Ed from TUI who got in at Queens then left after a year(reason unknown).
     

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