Using both title and letters: Dr. John Doe, M.D.

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  1. Guest

    Guest Guest

    I have read on this forum, in Bears' Guides, and elsewhere that standard protocol for using titles/letters is to use either one or the other, but not both. For example:

    Dr. John Doe
    John Doe, MD

    But not: Dr. John Doe, MD

    Apparantly this is not perceived by all. In numerous advertisements (magazines, newspapers, etc.), and on the "shingles" of some practitioners, I have noticed the use of both. Many of those I have seen are grads of RA schools as well.

    I am not advocating the use of both, nor do I personally use both. Just an observation of what I have seen.

    Russell
     
  2. John Bear

    John Bear Senior Member

    Major Major Major: That's wrong. What if everybody did that?

    Yossarian: Then I'd be crazy not to.

    (As remembered from Catch 22)
     
  3. Howard

    Howard New Member

    The Alabama Board of Examiners in Counseling prohibits the reference of Dr. Howard Rodgers in any type of advertisement or phone listing. If I am to use the doctorate the first reference must be Howard Rodgers, Ph.D., after which I may use Dr. Rodgers; which seems rather sensible to me since most people would assume the use of Dr.....is a medical doctor.

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    Howard Rodgers
     
  4. PCap

    PCap New Member

    Chiropractors,at least in my area,are notorious for shingles and letterhead etc.which read Dr.Joe Blow,D.C.Whats up with that?
     
  5. Guest

    Guest Guest

    This is one area in which I have seen both title and letters used, i.e., among Chiropractors.

    Dr. Russell A. Morris, D.Min., Ph.D.(c) [​IMG]
     
  6. cbkent

    cbkent Member

    Chiropractors using both "Dr." and "D.C." bothers me, too.

    Most states require that if you use the title "Dr." it must be qualified by the word "chiropractor" or the initials "D.C."

    IMHO, it looks tacky to use both. It should be "John Jones, D.C." or
    "Dr. John Jones, Chiropractor," although the redundant form complies with the letter of the law.

    As a general rule, I think listing the degree on one's "shingle" is the way to go, rather than a nondescript "Dr."

    Christopher
    A chiropractor with no sign
     
  7. And I'm seeing a glut of "Chiropractic Physicians." Is this a new trend, or just one I never noticed before?
     
  8. Bruce

    Bruce Moderator

    I'd wager insecurity.


    Bruce
     
  9. DCross

    DCross New Member

    There are many biases that exist against Chiropractors. Even within the profession, there are varying philosophies and perspectives. I think they want society to know that they consider themselves physicians. The only thing is... they treat disease with different modalities.
    I think that in the face of the biases they percieve, they want everyone to know that they are doctors. They also want to educate that Chiropractors are D.C.s rather than M.D.s. I also see this with Optometrists.

    Insecurity? Probably, but I can see why, considering the lashing they routinely take by the AMA.

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    Darren Cross
    BSB-Management, UoP
    MBA-Fontbonne College
     
  10. Bruce

    Bruce Moderator

    Darren, it was more of a joke with myself than anything. My brother used to date a chiropractor, and she was touchy beyond belief about being called "not a real doctor". Needless to say, I used to needle her about it all the time.


    Bruce
     
  11. PCap

    PCap New Member

    On TV a few years ago I watched a program,actually an infomercial,which featured Gary Null who earned his Ph.D. from The Union Institute.His research focused on human nutrition,although to hear him speak you would think he has a doctorate in everything.Anyway,they kept flashing "not a real doctor" on the screen. This would appear shortly after "Gary Null,Ph.D."was flashed on the screen.I found that kind of rude,for God's sake the guy is a real doctor,they should have flashed "not a medical doctor" don't you think? I see Chiropractors hawking vitamins all the time and no screen flashing after they are referred to as "Doctor"by the host.They should be flashed as "not a medical doctor"as well.In fact maybe everybody should be flashed,or mooned.Actually I mean perhaps the EXACT credential should be shown for all of these folks so people will know from whence the expertise comes,or at least be able to identify and learn more about those credentials if they wish.What the hell,maybe I'm being picky.I've got a 43rd birthday coming up and I'm feeling achy and old and pissed off........
     
  12. Guest

    Guest Guest

    PCap,

    Perhaps a visit to the local Chiropractor will alleviate that old/achy feeling.

    As far as being 43, well, some regression therapy may take you back to younger days. [​IMG]

    Russell
     
  13. Bruce

    Bruce Moderator

    I think "not a physician" would be more appropriate.


    Bruce
     
  14. cbkent

    cbkent Member

    Well...if an MD appears, how about, "Not a Ph.D.?" Or "Does not hold a relevant specialty certification?"

    This is getting ridiculous. The actual degree should listed (MD, PhD, DC, etc), not a plethora of inane disclaimers.

    By the way, chiropractors are permitted to use the designation "chiropractic physician" in many, if not most, jurisdictions.
     
  15. Howard

    Howard New Member

    Howard L. Rodgers, Ph.D.,
    Counseling Physician

    has quite a ring to it, doesn't it?

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    Howard Rodgers
     
  16. DCross

    DCross New Member

    I didn't mean to go off on a tagent like that. I chuckled at your choice of words....touchy and needle, as chiropractors and "hands on" and often practice accupuncture.




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    Darren Cross
    BSB-Management, UoP
    MBA-Fontbonne College
     
  17. DCross

    DCross New Member



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    Darren Cross
    BSB-Management, UoP
    MBA-Fontbonne College
     
  18. Guest

    Guest Guest

    Russell A. Morris, D.Min., Ph.D.(c)
    Pastoring Physician

    Yeah, I like it Howard! [​IMG]
     
  19. Bruce

    Bruce Moderator

    I was wondering if anyone was going to catch that. [​IMG]


    Bruce
     
  20. PCap

    PCap New Member

    This is actually what I had in mind,just show the exact credential without the disclaimers. If someone wanted to then research what it means/doesn't mean,they could.
     

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