Accrediting agencies must, themselves, be "accredited" by the US Dept. of Education and/or the Council on Higher Education Accreditation. DETC came up for re-approval last year, and in mid-December, the National Advisory Committee on Institutional Quality and Integrity unanimously recommended that they be relicensed, and for the maximum term of five years (the first time in more than ten years that they've gotten the maximum term). The Committee also approved DETC to include "first professional degrees" (such as law degrees) within its scope. This won't be official until the Secretary of Education (and for a self-inflicted pat on the back, can anyone out there name him or her without looking it up?) approves, which is, I think, a formality. There has been a fair amount of skepticism in this forum about some things DETC does, and clear evidence that their schools have less than half the level of academic acceptance as regionally accredited schools -- but they are, in terms of licensing, as "establishment" as one can get in the US.
Thanks for the update John. However, you made no mention in the body of your post about approval for accreditation of doctorates. Have you any update on that issue? Cheers, George
Dr. Bear, I know the names of all black persons in the current administration because I am a black man and a (moderate) republican. Now, Dr. Bear, could you please explain what you mean by "self-inflicted pat on the back". His name is Rod Paige (as Bruce has stated) and thanks for the info on DETC.
I think John meant "doctorate" in the context of first professional. Such as the Juris Doctor, or JD. PaulC
In the DL world, you need to give yourself a pat on the back since the professor is not there to do it for you (and nor is Dr. Bear).
Boy, I can hardly WAIT to get started on my D/L Doctor of Dental Surgery degree! (Bzzzzz...now spit, please...) Nosborne
PaulC and Gert have answered for me, regarding patting yourself on the back, and professional doctorates. Thank you. And, hey, in a world where a licensed British school teaches surgery by DL,* complete with mailing you your scalpels, can DL dentistry be far behind? *http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/SMAE_INSTITUTE/
Thank you Dr. Bear (to Paul and Gert also). As a non-native speaker of the language, I always try to understand the meaning of expressions and phrases that are new to me.
Professional accreditation ----- yeah! for what purpose? Will this make a difference to the American Psychological Association, the American Bar Association, et al? NOT! ------------------ Howard Rodgers
Ike writes, "As a non native speaker of the language, I always try to understand the meaning of expressions and phrases that are new to me." Bob's your uncle, Ike.* _________ * http://www.alt-usage-english.org/excerpts/fxbobsyo.html
And, if ultimately (in the afterlific sense), Bob turns out to not be your uncle, triple yer money back! http://www.subgenius.com/ ------------------ Quinn
Thanks again Dr. Bear. When I visit London next spring, I will not argue with any British subject who suggests that Bob is my uncle. Now to everybody: Bob est votre oncle
Thanks again. When I visit London next spring, I will not argue with any British subject who suggests that Bob is my uncle. Now to everybody: Bob est votre oncle
According to an African adage, a vulture has no business visiting a barber's shop because she has already been coiffured by nature.
For those who are in the know on this: Is there a reason why DETC has not expanded its scope to include Ph.D. and Ed.D. programs?
The Ph.D. and Ed.D. degrees are based, in part, on research. The DETC's entire history has been in the accreditation of correspondence courses. The degree-granting schools they accredit award their degrees for coursework. (I'm not sure if I've ever seen a thesis requirement--or even option--at a DETC-accredited school offering a master's.) First professional degrees are normally course-based, with nothing even approaching a doctoral dissertation. Such degrees fall safely within DETC's scope and experience. Just MHO. Rich Douglas
Hi Rich: Just FYI - at ISIM, a DETC accredited school offering only Master's degrees, all students are required to complete a capstone project that includes a significant research component and other elements of a master's thesis as part of their program. Mary
Ike:When I visit London next spring, I will not argue with any British subject who suggests that Bob is my uncle. The one to be really careful with, Ike, is "On the job training." In the US, "on the job" means just that: at work. In England, it is slang for having sex. I learned this the hard way when one of the sales brochures I wrote for my book, distributed in the UK, referred to information on getting credit for on the job training. Many raised eyebrows from Lands Eng to John o' Groats.