External AACSB Accredited PhD from Australia

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  1. RFValve

    RFValve Well-Known Member

  2. AV8R

    AV8R Active Member

    Excellent find!
     
  3. dl_mba

    dl_mba Member

  4. RFValve

    RFValve Well-Known Member

    That is the problem with Australian schools, some of them charge the same regardless of your part-time or full time status as they are research degrees.

    For this reason, professional doctorates seem to work better for part time study. Check their Doctor of Project Management that is 2040 per unit, you pay only per unit taken so it makes more sense for part time study.
     
  5. AV8R

    AV8R Active Member

    We haven't discussed Australian doctorates in quite awhile. I wonder what the status of things are Down Under?
     
  6. RFValve

    RFValve Well-Known Member

    One of the reasons for this is because the Australian dollar now is actually stronger than the US dollar so the option is not longer attractive for most.

    I know that the University of Southern Queensland is marketing more the DBA to Australian Students as they now recently have opened the 3 year full time on campus option that is meant for Australian students that want to profit from Australian loans that require full time on campus attendance. It seems that USQ is going more on campus rather than distance as they have taken a hit due to the strong Australia dollar.

    Also, tuition fees have gone up as the Australian government is cutting down education budgets. An international student is require to pay 20K AUD for a PhD program that might take at least 3 years so this brings this to more than 60K USD that is closer to any of the American options.

    In short, Australia is not longer an option for most of us as any DBA or PhD would cost you more than 60K.

    Australia is a good place to study but my guess is that an employer would rather hire someone with an AACSB accredited degree from an American school like Kennesaw State University than someone with a degree from USQ that cost about the same nowadays.
     
  7. AV8R

    AV8R Active Member

    I was looking at that Kennesaw DBA program a few days ago and I noticed something I thought was ironic. I always thought one of the purposes of these new AACSB DBA programs was to alleviate the shortage of full-time business faculty in academia. However, the Kennesaw DBA program seems to be marketed to those who are least likely to leave their lucrative careers in business and take on academic positions.

    I can't pinpoint exactly where I saw in on their web site, but they seem to be targeting high-level executives for the program. And of course, high-level executives are usually already making a lot of money and probably don't have any real incentive to leave their careers for a life in academia. The KSU DBA doesn't even require GMAT scores. They claim that the type of candidate they are interested in will be of such a high caliber that GMAT scores are not needed (I paraphrased this...too lazy right now to look up the exact quote on their web site).
     
  8. RFValve

    RFValve Well-Known Member

    Academic careers can be quite lucrative too, some professors make more than 300K and even more if they go into administration.

    I agree that short programs like the KW is not the best for an academic career but at least it would satisfy the minimum requirements for an academic position.

    It takes good 2 or 3 years to get some publications in credible journals so the program might not give enough for someone to build an academic career.

    Although the KW is not the ideal situation, the Australian DBAs are also not meant to train academics but managers although many use them for academic careers. The same situation might apply KW, many might go into management but some might want to go into academics.

    However, the Australian doctorates are very expensive now. The USQ DBA is now close to 60K and others like Deakin are more than 80K and none are AACSB accredited. For these prices the KW looks like a better option and also a lot shorter, the USQ DBA is at least 5 years part time program while KW can be completed in 3 years.
     
  9. Kizmet

    Kizmet Moderator

    I agree that the prices are very high. However, there is one factor that might make this a tiny bit more tolerable. What I am referring to is the fact that a few of the Australian universities (Charles Sturt, the Queenslands, etc.) offer virtually all of their grad degrees with a "by research" option. This means that if you have an off-beat interest you might still have a DL option that is not available from a US university. Under those circumstances you might then consider it worth the price.
     
  10. RFValve

    RFValve Well-Known Member

    It seems that these programs are in the same range of price as Walden, NCU, TUI and other online schools. The problem is the time, it takes at least 5 years to do these programs but most likely to extend to 6 o 8 years, it took me 8 to finish mine. Unless the American market finds these programs superior as the ones offered from online schools, the time investment might not be justified.

    Given the strength of the Australian dollar, it seems that the best foreign option is now the UK.
     

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