Great Article about usage of the PHD Title

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  1. Hortonka

    Hortonka New Member

    I know this subject has been spoken about on numerous occasions; however it is always great whenever you come across an article that really puts it into perspective.


    Mister, Doctor, or Does it Matter?
    Posted: 09 Feb 2009 04:30 AM PST
    Mister, Doctor, or Does It Matter?

    My mother was the secretary at Glennwood Baptist Church in Morris, Alabama for about eight or nine years. My parents attended Glennwood for a while, and the pastor (David Bays) is someone I respect and admire very greatly. Even when I moved to St. Louis, after I got married, and after Shannon and I moved to Memphis, we continued to get a newsletter from Glennwood, and I enjoyed staying abreast of what is going on there. The newsletters that came to our house changed shortly after I defended my dissertation in May, 2006. “Mr. and Mrs. William Arthur Carden” became “Dr. and Mrs. William Arthur Carden.” In trademark display of motherly pride, I’m sure Mom really enjoyed changing “Mr.” to “Dr.” in the church’s mail-merge.

    Getting a PhD is an accomplishment and it is rightly something to be proud of; however, it also provides, for many, an occasion for conceit bordering on arrogance and tactlessness. A few days before Christmas in 2007, I was flipping through my in-laws’ copy of the Birmingham News when I came across a letter to “Miss Manners” from someone who had sent a Christmas card to a cousin with a PhD. The card had been addressed to “Mr. So-and-so” rather than “Dr. So-and-so.” Instead of responding with grace, as one might have hoped that someone of Dr. So-and-so’s high stature would, apparently he wrote back with a self-addressed envelope to “Dr. So-and-so,” a copy of his diploma, and a note saying that it is customary to refer to someone of his stature as “Dr. So-and-so” or “Firstname So-and-so, PhD.”

    My thought: wow. That’s pretty insecure.

    This caught my eye in part because I’ll admit, I sometimes chafe–with tongue planted firmly in cheek–at getting stuff addressed to “Mr. Carden” when I have earned the right to be addressed as “Dr. Carden,” presumably. When I get arrogant about it, I remember Michael Myers in one of the Austin Powers movies as “Dr. Evil,” reminding people that he “didn’t spend five years in Evil medical school to be called mister, thank you very much.” What a joke.

    Economist Tyler Cowen has blogged about how, apparently, people who conspicuously refer to themselves as “Dr.” or “Firstname Lastname, PhD” are often those with arguments or claims that are somewhat weak and that need to be bolstered with an air of authority. While I will admit that qualifications and affiliations are important signals—I’m much more likely to listen to a PhD economist at Harvard in a discussion of the minimum wage than I am to listen to someone who has never taken an economics class but nonetheless maintains a very strong opinion about the subject—reliance on authority is the weakest form of argument or evidence. There are a lot of smart people saying a lot of very off-base things. Nonetheless, they have the credentials to back themselves up. As people stay in school longer and as life expectancies increase, the letters “PhD” will come to have far less signaling value.

    Dr. F.A. Hayek’s Nobel Prize address was entitled “the pretence of knowledge,” and while it sought to upbraid those who thought that central planning (or coherent macroeconomic policy) were possible, it speaks today to those who think they are something when they are not. Just because you have a PhD doesn’t mean that you have automatically earned glory, respect, and approbation. While it is customary (and wise) for people to address you properly or defer to you in areas where you have expertise, it is grotesquely immature to insist upon it.

    So what’s the message, then, to the newly-minted PhD and to those around people who have doctorates? For the friend or relative, it is customary to refer to someone as “Doctor” in formal communication. This doesn’t give someone the right to get his or her underwear bunched up if someone forgets to say “Doctor” or “PhD” or “Grand Poo-bah” or what have you. If you have something important to say, let that stand on its own merits. If you want to be respected and loved, be respectable and loveable. Don’t rely on the fact that you spent five, six, seven, or however many years grinding away at a graduate degree to earn your favor in another’s eyes.

    Art Carden is Assistant Professor of Economics and Business at Rhodes College in Memphis, Tennessee and an Adjunct Fellow with the Oakland, California-based Independent Institute. His research papers have been published or are forthcoming in Public Choice, Contemporary Economic Policy, the International Journal of Social Economics, the Business and Society Review, the Journal of Interdisciplinary Studies, the Review of Austrian Economics, and other outlets, and they can be found on his SSRN Author Page. His commentaries appear regularly atwww.mises.org and in newspapers around the country, and he is a regular contributor to Division of Labour. He and his wife, Shannon, had their first child in July, 2008.
     
  2. Randell1234

    Randell1234 Moderator

    Well, as I have said many times I will demand everyone call me doctor. I will not respond to anyone unless the sentence starts with, "Doctor" or "king of the universe" or "intellectual colossus" or something else that is fitting for such a man as I. ;) Until then, I will still respond to "hey you" or anything else.
     
  3. Ian Anderson

    Ian Anderson Active Member

    Are you Dr. carden or is this a quote?
    Just curious since this is written in the first tense. .
     
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  4. 03310151

    03310151 Active Member

    Originally Posted by Hortonka
    I know this subject has been spoken about on numerous occasions; however it is always great whenever you come across an article that really puts it into perspective.

    Don't read too much into it. I think this clearly states this is an article.
     
  5. Ian Anderson

    Ian Anderson Active Member


    Ooops - I missed this line.
    However it is etiquette to name the source when repeating quotes.
     
  6. dlady

    dlady Active Member

    The only time it seems to really bug me is when I get the rejection letter from a school I sent a CV to saying no thanks, and they address it to Mr. Lady, always makes me wonder if they actually even looked at the information...
     
  7. gonenomad

    gonenomad New Member

    LOL! I got one of those in the mail a while back.

    I find it annoying that the alumni association at the institution where I got my doctorate still sends me mail addressed to Mr.
     
  8. -kevin-

    -kevin- Resident Redneck

    You aren't related to Rodney Dangerfield are you? :D
     
  9. Tireman 44444

    Tireman 44444 Well-Known Member

    Gee, you all are lucky. My alumi association addresses my letters as:

    Dear Occupant
     
  10. ebbwvale

    ebbwvale Member

    I always thought that a Doctorate is a university award, not an honor bestowed by the community in general. Military officers are entitled to salutes and being referred to as "Sir" by lesser military beings. The military bestows that title and refers its staff to adher to it. Civilians, of couse, do not have to as they are not part of the military.

    Does this not apply to the title of Doctor? When in the university setting and with lesser academic animals, these persons should use the title in the address. Why should anyone else? It is a courtesy, if given, certainly not a right. Its bit like calling former Judges by their former title, "Judge". In reality they are not. It is a privilege that may or may not be given, no entitlement.

    I have two Masters degrees. Holders of masters degrees should be addressed as Mister, according to university ettiquette. Am I "Mister, Mister"? Perhaps;"Misters"?
     

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