more DISTANCE learning at Harvard

Discussion in 'General Distance Learning Discussions' started by cookderosa, Jan 12, 2009.

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  1. cookderosa

    cookderosa Resident Chef

    Harvard is pretty clear that they are not "distance learning" providers- but there are a few things they tell you that you can do at a distance.
    -50% of your master's degree (liberal arts)
    -97% of your bachelor's degree (liberal arts)
    -60% master's degree in biotechnology
    -90% master's degree in environmental management
    -100% Certificate in Environmental Management
    -100% Certificate in Applied Sciences

    I found another distance option that (I think) is hidden inside links to nowhere. You can earn citations . Harvard citations are 16 credits (though you could complete more) taken from a list within 3 years. If you are a master's degree holders, this might give you an additional teaching area, or simply be a resume booster for anyone.

    This link provides details- but essentially, it's 4 classes that comes out to about $6800 using today's tuition. (2 semesters)
    Look for the dagger symbol for distance learning selections.
    (If you look around the site, you will see they don't mention this option when explaining distance options for certificates or degrees)
    http://www.extension.harvard.edu/2008-09/courses/citations/

    Citation areas you can do totally at a distance:
    East Asian Studies (history prefix)
    Ecological Management (Enviro prefix)
    Sustainable Development (Enviro prefix)
    Web Technology (CSCI prefix)

    Citations that allow 50%-75% at a distance:
    Legal Studies (LSTU prefix)
    Multimedia and Digital Content (CSCI prefix)
    Nonprofit Management (prefix varied)


    How you earn the other 50% (or 25%) would depend on if summer school offered the courses, or if full semesters were required. (you would have to look it up course by course)
    For semi-locals, extension courses are sometimes 1x/week- so commuting isn't unreasonable even in surrounding states.
    For others, a summer session residency is 7 weeks, but housing is available ($$$).
     
  2. cookderosa

    cookderosa Resident Chef

    Edit: The citation courses, like most of the HES courses, can be taken for undergrad or grad credit.
     
  3. TEKMAN

    TEKMAN Semper Fi!

    Just a quick question about Harvard's ES. Does it really state, "Harvard Extension School" on your transcript and degree diploma?

    Thanks in advance!
     
  4. cookderosa

    cookderosa Resident Chef

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    Srry, I don't know what the citation or diploma say...and I can't find it on the website, but this is from the FAQ for the master's degree :

    Does the diploma say Extension School?

    The diploma reads UNIVERSITAS HARVARDIANA; then, after the graduate’s name comes Magistri in Artibus Liberalibus Studiorum Prolatorum (Master of Liberal Arts in Extension Studies).

    http://extension.harvard.edu/2008-09/programs/alm/help/#degree
     
  5. xecuter

    xecuter New Member

  6. xecuter

    xecuter New Member

    I just do not understand the reason why the Harvard Diploma doesn't have a single English word on it.

    I mean what is the point of having it written in Latin?
     
  7. Bruce

    Bruce Moderator

    To impress your friends and family. :D
     
  8. xecuter

    xecuter New Member

    LOL...that's funny...

    No for real, you are spending over $20,000 plus travel and accomodation expenses if you are moving from a different state to complete the on campus requirement and at the end, instead of getting the "Harvard University" name prestige, you're getting "Vniversitas Harvardiana"..not only that..but also "Magistri in Artibus Liberalibus Studiorum Prolatorum"...LOL

    Another question, if you get to choose bewteen an AACSB online MBA degree program in the $30,000's range or a Master of Arts in Liberta Studies of the Extension school of the University of Harvard in Management.....which one would you choose and why?
     
  9. Randell1234

    Randell1234 Moderator

    These look great. To bad there is not a 100% online program I am interested in. :(
     
  10. Bruce

    Bruce Moderator

    That depends on what the AACSB program is. If it's a rather generic state school like Jacksonville State, I'd go with Harvard. If it's Duke University's Executive M.B.A., I'm going with Duke.

    There aren't a lot of things that trump Harvard's name recognition.
     
  11. xecuter

    xecuter New Member

    I meant a generic state school in the $30'sk cost.

    Duke EMBA is a $135k program and out of competition...lol
     
  12. TEKMAN

    TEKMAN Semper Fi!

    At least doesn't say distance learning. :)
     
  13. xecuter

    xecuter New Member

    hahaha...IMAGINE if it also mentioned (And 50% of this degree was earned online)
     
  14. PatsGirl1

    PatsGirl1 New Member

    Yep. To me, the name recognition and possible networking it would provide would be the biggest reason.
     
  15. airtorn

    airtorn Moderator

    I really need to do the graduate certificate in environmental management.
     
  16. jgaddy33688

    jgaddy33688 Member

    networking

    I am unsure about the idea that having a certificate from Harvard would allow one networking opportunities. Do you think Harvard graduates in positions of authority would consider this certificate as a key to enter a network and be offered opportunities?
    I agree about having name recognition is a plus but I question the networking.
    Let me know if I am completely wrong because I dont really have any experience in this situation; just running off at the mouth.
     
  17. bmills072200

    bmills072200 New Member

    I would tend to agree. I am not sure how impressive a Harvard "citation" would be on a resume. It depends on the level of knowledge that the one looking at the resume has about citations from Harvard. I would expect that most looking at a resume that saw a non-degree citation from Harvard, might not take it too seriously and give it its worth in the sweat and tears that it would take to earn it...
     
  18. Fortunato

    Fortunato Member

    The Duke MBA gets a lot of grief around here for it's costs, but to be fair, a lot of the cost of Duke's Cross Continent MBA (which is only $115K, btw) comes from the accommodations during the international residencies. They put you up at some of the best hotels in the world, serve three specially catered meals a day, do 2-3 tours per residency, provide a per-diem for off-site activities, and bring in distinguished speakers such as high-ranking government officials or corporate executives. The 2011 class will have 5 international residencies, not to mention sessions in Durham.

    If an international experience during your MBA isn't important to you, the Weekend EMBA program at Duke is delivered entirely in Durham over alternating weekends for two years, and costs $109K. WEMBA students get to experience Fuqua in a way much closer to the way a daytime student would, and participate in Fuqua clubs, the regular distinguished speaker series, etc.

    All Fuqua students get access to Fuqua's career services office, resources like the Duke Startup Challenge, and a ton of other stuff that costs a lot of money to provide. At the end of the day, the fact of the matter is that the reason Fuqua's nontraditional MBA programs are so expensive is that many people (about 400 EMBA graduates per year) find studying at Duke to be worth the price.
     
  19. Randell1234

    Randell1234 Moderator


    I lived in NC for a while and am well aware of the power of a Duke degree but I have to wonder - what is the ROI? Is it worth it?
     
  20. cookderosa

    cookderosa Resident Chef

    I don't know if it matters, but I think Harvard's GSAS college as well as the Law school also issue all master's degrees in Latin. I know the architecture and business schools are in English though. Not sure about the others. (The ones I found online from diploma mills are in English! LOL)
     

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