Update from Nova SE - DBA Program

I'm on campus at Nova for the last of my accounting concentrations courses. A few updates:

1. Enrollment in the DBA program is down to 180 - and headed to 100 by next year.

2. AACSB - Supposedly everything is on track - but don't look for it until 2010 or so.

3. Library - As I work on class projects, I continue to be amazed at the library support that NSU has. I can't seem to find a database they don't have. Among other things, NSU has access to the Wharton Research Data Services. With this database you can get data to do event studies and other financial studies.

Regards - Andy

 

Great information.....thanks for the update!

 

Pardon my ingorance... but what can you do with a DBA that you can't with a good MBA?

 

Thanks for the undate. I have thought about Nova but it is just too much money.

 

Like virtually any other doctorate, it generally improves your chances of getting a teaching position over people with merely a master's degree.

 

If your goal is to teach, a Ph.D is going to beat that every time. I see plenty of big named MBAs adjuncting.

 

Performance tune the indexes on your database for one, and do an outer join between two tables using the force.

 

So in one part of this thread you admit to being ignorant to the utility of a DBA and in another part you state with authority that a Ph.D. is going to beat a DBA every time. Interesting.

 

somebody better tell Harvard about the lack of utility of the DBA (especially in light of the fact that the majority of their business doctorates are....drum roll....DBAs).

 

ssteachn, why do you think that a doctor of philosophy is better then a doctor of business? What's so great about philosophy?

 

AACSB says
"Are there different types of doctoral programs?
The two principal degree designations offered by business doctoral programs are the PhD (Doctor of Philosophy) and the DBA (Doctor of Business Administration). In an earlier era of business education, the DBA was popularly regarded as providing a more general exposure to business topics geared towards practice, while the PhD was viewed as focusing more on research in a given business specialty. Over time, the distinction between these 2 degrees has become blurred at many institutions. At present, the PhD is more widely available from business schools than the DBA, particularly in the U.S. Most PhD programs require full-time participation while it is more common for DBA programs to be part-time. Investigation of specific doctoral programs will yield information about the particular focus of the degree at respective schools."

 

DBA and PhD

As a person who has led hiring efforts in business schools, I'll tell you that the letters "DBA" or "PhD" by themselves don't matter much. Institutions look for people that have an earned doctorate in business (be it PhD or DBA), often expecting it to come from a school that is AACSB accredited.

The real hiring questions are these: "What is the person's potential to teach and do research? Does he/she have relevant industry experience? How will they "fit" this institution?"

Case in point - All other things equal a person with a DBA from Harvard Business School is highly likely to get hired before a person with a PhD from any of the DL schools (Waldon, NCU, TUI, Capella, Union).

Regards - Andy

 

I don't agree with this statement, a DBA from Harvard would be preferred over a PhD from NCU for a business teaching position. Reputation, accreditation (AACSB), credibility and other factors are more important than the degree name.

 

If the DBA from Harvard has the same experience as a Ph.D. from an AACSB accredited school, will they win? I don't think so as the Ph.D. is groomed for academia and has published more. Publishing is the name of the game.

 

Maybe I am Loco(crazy) but I fail to see your point. Can you please elaborate a bit more and with researched publications?

 

Is it not true that academia looks for people who are published? Plenty of people from online schools get into traditional academia but they say they have to publish to get in over their rivals.

 

Why do you think that a PhD publishes more than a DBA or other doctorate? Is this simply your opinion or do you have evidence to support your case?

 

This is your opinion. Maybe you want to provide some sort proof that can substantiate your opinion?

 

Wow! airtorn we asked the same question! I was not even looking at your response.

 

ssteachn, I'm not sure where to begin with your comment that a PhD will beat a DBA every time because it simply isn't true. There are so many variables involved, to include:
- industry experience
- reputation of school
- reputation of committee members
- number of publishing's in peer reviewed journals
- the interview
- the applicant's reputation

Making a blanket statement that a holder of a PhD will always get hired over a holder of a DBA is a novice opinion, at best. When and if you are ever awarded a regionally accredited doctorate, then come back and tell us how your opinion has been reevaluated.

ssteachn, regarding your statement about publishing, yes, it's extremely important for those who want to work at research universities. The publishing's should also be peer reviewed and should involve some type of qualitative and/or quantitative research.