So, even with my AS in Nursing, and doing FEMA courses, I still need a LOT of credits for my bachelors. Program: BA in Liberal Studies S.H. S.H. Applied S.H. Comm Coll S.H to Overall TESC Required to Degree Req Remaining S.H. Applied be Planned GPA Met GPA 121.67 62.69 58.98 62.69 58.98 YES ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- BA General Education Distribution (42 SH) Semester Hours Completed: 28.68 Src Course # Title S.H. Grd TESC # Notes 1.. WR121 English Composition...... 2.00 A ENC-103 *CC *TE 1.. WR122 English Composition...... 2.00 A ENC-104 *CC *TE 1.. WR123 English Composition...... 2.00 A ENC-105 *CC *TE B: Humanities (In Progress) > Complete 12 semester hours of Humanities, including at > least two subject areas. Src Course # Title S.H. Grd TESC # Notes 1.. SP112 Fund of Speech........... 2.00 A COM-108 *CC C: Social Sciences (In Progress) Semester Hours Completed: 10.00 Required: 12 Remaining: 2 Src Course # Title S.H. Grd TESC # Notes 1.. PSY201 General Psychology....... 2.00 A PSY-104 *CC *TE 1.. SOC205 General Sociology........ 2.00 A SOC-102 *CC *TE 1.. SOC204 General Sociology........ 2.00 A SOC-101 *CC *TE 1.. PSY203 General Psychology....... 2.00 A PSY-106 *CC *TE 1.. PSY202 General Psychology....... 2.00 A PSY-105 *CC *TE D: Mathematics (Not Started) E: Natural Sciences (Completed) . Semester Hours Completed: 10.68 Src Course # Title S.H. Grd TESC # Notes 1.. CH103 Gen Chem Health.......... 2.67 A CHE-186 *CC *TE 1.. CH102 Gen Chemistry Health..... 2.67 A CHE-185 *CC *TE 1.. CH101 Gen Chen Health.......... 2.67 A CHE-184 *CC *TE 1.. BIO232 Anatomy & Physiology..... 2.67 A BIO-212 *CC *TE ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > General Education subjects: Humanities, Social Sciences, > Natural Sciences or Mathematics. !! Exception Quarter hour excess in Natural Science area ================================================================================ BA Liberal Studies 2000(33 SH) ." Semester Hours Completed: 5.34 Required: 33 Remaining: 27.66 Src Course # Title S.H. Grd TESC # Notes 1.. BIO234 Microbiology............. 2.67 A BIO-351 *CC *TE 1.. BIO231 Anatomy & Physiology..... 2.67 A BIO-211 *CC *TE ================================================================================ BA Free Electives (27 SH) > Complete 27 semester hours of Free Electives. Semester Hours Completed: 28.67 Src Course # Title S.H. Grd TESC # Notes 1.. NUR203 Nursing VI............... 6.67 A NUR-399 *CC *TE 1.. NUR202 Nursing V................ 6.67 A NUR-299 *CC *TE 1.. NUR201 Nursing IV............... 5.33 A NUR-237 *CC *TE 1.. NUR200 Role Developmemt......... 3.33 A NUR-299 *CC *TE 1.. NUR103 Nursing III.............. 6.67 A NUR-236 *CC *TE ================================================================================ OTHER COURSES: Src Course # Title S.H. Grd TESC # Notes --- ---------- ------------------------- ------- --- ---------- --------- 1 HD100 Coll Survival & Success 2.00 A FEL-101 *TE*CC ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1 PE180 Womens Wt Training 0.67 A PEA-199 *TE*CC 1 PE185 Beg Aerobics 0.67 A PEA-199 *TE*CC 1 PE185 Beg Aerobics 0.67 A PEA-199 *TE*CC 1 PE185 Beginning Aerobics 0.67 A PEA-199 *TE*CC 1 NUR101 Nursing I 6.67 A NUR-110 *TE*CC 1 NUR198 Learning Lab 0.67 CR NUR-199 *TE*CC 1 NUR102 Nursing II 6.67 A NUR-111 *TE*CC 1 NUR198 Learning Lab 0.67 CR NUR-199 *TE*CC 1 NUR198 Learning Lab 0.67 CR NUR-199 *TE*CC 1 PE185 Begin Aerobics 0.67 A PEA-199 *TE*CC 1 FN225 Nutrition 2.67 A NUT-101 *TE*CC 1 NUR198 Learning Lab 0.67 CR NUR-199 *TE*CC 1 1606 First Aid 0.67 CR HEA-195 *TE*CC 1 NUR198 Learning Lab 0.67 CR NUR-199 *TE*CC 1 PHC211 Pharmacology 1.33 A PHA-101 *TE*CC 1 NUR198 Learning Lab 0.67 CR NUR-199 *TE*CC 1 PHC212 Pharmacology 1.33 A PHA-202 *TE*CC 1 NUR299 Spec Stud Phys Assessment 2.67 B NUR-299 *TE*CC 2 EDM-399 Spec. Stud. in Selected T 1.00 CR EDM-399 *NE 2 EDM-103 A Citizen's Guide to Dis. 1.00 CR EDM-103 *NE 2 EDM-190 Build.For Earthqua.Of Tom 1.00 CR EDM-190 *NE 2 EDM-191 Animals in Disaster-A 1.00 CR EDM-191 *NE 2 EDM-192 Animals in Disaster-B Com 1.00 CR EDM-192 *NE 2 EDM-203 Exercise Design 1.00 CR EDM-203 *NE 2 EDM-126 State Disaster Management 1.00 CR EDM-126 *NE 2 EDM-107 Principles of Emer Manage 1.00 CR EDM-107 *NE 2 EDM-224 Emergency Planning 1.00 CR EDM-224 *NE 2 EDM-207 Leadership and Influence 1.00 CR EDM-207 *NE 2 EDM-208 Decision Making & Problem 1.00 CR EDM-208 *NE 2 EDM-209 Effective Communications 1.00 CR EDM-209 *NE 2 EDM-210 Developing & Managing Vol 1.00 CR EDM-210 *NE 2 EDM-122 Role/Volunteer Agen in Em 1.00 CR EDM-122 *NE 2 EDM-200 Disaster Basics 1.00 CR EDM-200 *NE 2 EDM-172 Radiological Emergency Re 1.00 CR EDM-172 *NE 2 EDM-155 Orien. Haz Mat for Med. P 1.00 CR EDM-155 *NE 2 EDM-232 Intro, Residential Coasta 1.00 CR EDM-232 *NE 2 EDM-140 Introduction to Mitigatio 1.00 CR EDM-140 *NE 2 EDM-221 Intro Public Assistance P 1.00 CR EDM-221 *NE (Credits in parentheses are anticipated earned) * 09/17/08 80sh Limit: Credit Transfer Limitation from Two Year Colleges NOTES *CC Community College Credit *NE Non-course Equivalency *TE Transfer Equivalency
It looks like you didn't need to bother with FEMA, they didn't count them at all. you have nursing courses in the free electives slot. At least they didn't cost you anything.
Am I Missing Something? I could be missing the point here--and that's a great possibility--but why not switch to a major that will take in more credits? A Bachelor of Arts degree by its very nature (and especially one in liberal arts) does not generally accept a great deal of science credits. You have quite a few...why not apply them to a Bachelor of Science degree in a major that will be more accommodating of your past credits? basrsu
I thought about that, but I think I would have to have a college algebra or stats class. That ain't happening. lol I'm glad the FEMA courses didn't cost anything other than time. When I took them, I didn't realize that TESC only accepted 80 credits from a CC and that they only count for lower division. It makes sense. I just didn't know it. Oh, well. It's not like I need a degree per se when I'm currently retired. It was just a thought. Next year when I come out of retirement, I'll look around for nursing jobs and probably make more than if I went back and did something else. I just thought if I didn't need many credits....In the interim, I'll go back to being an unpaid academic advisor for my ds and be counting down the semesters he has left!
Have you considered the excelsior BS in Liberal Arts? You are well along to earning this degree since they allow 59 electives. It requires at least 30 units out of the 120 to be upper division. It does require 2 units of math but if you look at their on-line Math 113 course it is basic math : This course is designed to strengthen basic mathematics skills. Topics include whole numbers, fractions, decimals, ratio and proportion, percent, measurement, elementary geometry, elementary statistics and probability, and signed numbers. Based on your academic accomplishments to date I am sure you could handle this course. (Excelsior also has a math for the modern world course but I could not find details). Look at the Excelsior catalog - the BS requirements are shown in Chart 4. Your nursing credits may satisfy depth requirement 2. Excelsior may not take your arobics classes however (they wouldnt take my golf lessons).
I have two suggestions to add to those of the other people. 1. Thomas Edison State College: BS (Nursing) or BS (Health Services); you might still need a few credit hours 2. Charter Oak State College: BA/BS (Individualized Studies); you would need 18 credit hours upper-level in addition to any other credit hours
>> Actually, at TESC, social science is a liberal arts category- so she is already maximizing her work. I think you might be thinking of social services. Switching to a BS is a bad idea unless you go for your bachelor's of nursing. Have you thought about that? Here are my thoughts: No matter what you go for, your going to need gen ed classes and a content area. Your nursing filled your free elective slot, and you do have a bit of gen ed, but from what you posted- it looks to me as if you have a blank slate for your concentration. What are your goals? Fast? Easy? A certain field? Use a lot of testing? Inexpensive? Your goals help determine the best way to set your course. P.S. Don't be bummed. MANY people with associate degrees start from zero- I did! I tested out of half my degree and it still only took me 18 months to earn all 120.
Here is the TESC link - I think you are much closer than you think. Gen ed classes are a piece of cake. (they do NOT require algebra and stats) Try this one: http://www.tesc.edu/2761.php
Thanks for the suggestions. I never even thought about a BSN. Initially, when I was looking at getting my bachelors it was because I was thinking of getting a job with the state working with foster kids. At the time, over two months ago when I started doing the FEMA courses and had my transcripts sent to TESC, I thought the LA degree would be the fastest. I'll have to check into the other degrees. It just never entered my mind to check them out. Since the type of degree doesn't matter per se, I would go for the fastest and easiest, BUT I'd rather take classes than CLEP. I hate testing. Since my classes are from a CC, I'll need to pick up the rest from a state university. Glad I have a TESC catalog handy to peruse. I find it much easier to look at and go through than the online version.
Bachelor of Arts degrees do accept natural sciences and mathematics credits as they fall within the classification of liberal arts. TESC didn't accept a mom's nursing classes for liberal arts credit because they are an applied science. The distinction between natural and applied science sometimes is confusing, particularly with computer classes. a mom's son's networking and MIS classes were not evaluated as liberal arts credits because they are applied computing (an applied science) courses and not computer science (a natural science). My TESC BA has the liberal arts category satisfied entirely by natural science and mathematics classes.
I still don't have it straight in my head how they difference how they differentiate between natural and applied science. Maybe because I'm totally clueless about some of my ds's computer classes. All I know is that his CISCO classes were difficult, and there was a high drop out rate. Some classes ended up with 4-8 students after starting out in the 20's. Shouldn't degree of difficulty count? lol The nice thing about the BA degree at TESC is that he's able to take classes he's actually enjoying versus meeting a specific degree requirement or concentration. He's enjoying Human Growth and Development and Personal Relations and is looking forward to some music theory classes starting next semester. Course, there's still a few classes he's taking because he 'has' to. Having a non-academic kid, it's exciting when he mentions a textbook is interesting and applies the information to different situations. I haven't seen that since the first 2-3 semesters at college when he was still excited about computers. I'm still vacillating on when to officially enroll him at TESC, I'd like to keep it at the 1 year mark, so I don't have to pay for an extension. However, I want to make sure we're on track for spring semester. Once he's officially enrolled, I don't know if they move faster and it's easier to talk to an advisor. All of his classes will be from a 4 year university, so I 'think' he'll be okay. He'll be able to graduate Dec of 09. He's taking 19 credits this semester--only possible because of the way FCCJ staggers their courses with 8, 12, and 16 week classes. Next semester he'll have 15 credits (but all starting at once) and MAY be able to pick up another class at FCCJ depending on how it goes. That will leave 5-6 classes for summer/next fall during which time he wants to look for a job. I also need to start figuring out where I'm going and with what degree plan. (sigh)
Checking into this further, I don't think it's really cost-effective to get a BSN. I wouldn't make any more money than if I was working with a AS in Nursing, and it really wouldn't give me more job opportunities. I was a hospital supervisor for years with just an AS and I'm not really into management. At least with a 'different' bachelors more doors might be open for different types of work. A BS in Health Services from TESC requires a practicum. A BS in Liberal Arts from Excelsior or COSC, with possibly less upper division credits required, might be the best. I need to weigh the cost/benefit and the time factor to ascertain if it's really worth it or not. If I had less than 20 credits, I wouldn't hesitate; 30 or more is pushing it. Thanks for the suggestions. It's wonderful to get free (and good) advice!
