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    Nationa Fire Academy (NFA) Courses - Same as FEMA courses??

    Do these work the same was as Fema Courses?


    http://www.nfaonline.dhs.gov/browse/index.shtm


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    The following NFA Online courses are available. A National Fire Academy Certificate of Completion will be awarded for successful completion.

    Alternative Water Supply: Planning and Implementing Programs (Q217)
    Fire Prevention (Technical)


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    This course on alternative water supply is designed to assist fire chiefs, water authorities, public policy officials, and others whose responsibility it is to plan for and implement programs that allow for the use of alternative water sources during structural firefighting operations . Awareness of

    Command and Control Decisionmaking at Multiple Alarm Incidents (Q297)
    Incident Management


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    This course is both a stand-alone course as well as the pre-course for the 6-day residential delivery of the National Fire Academy's new Command and Control Decision Making at Multi-Alarm Incidents. Anyone interested in applying for the 6-day residential course must pass this pre-course with a score of 85 percent. The topics covered in this pre-course include: classical and naturalistic decisionmaking, strategies for managing safety concerns at expanded emergency incidents, pre-incident preparation, resource allocation, effective use of on-site communications , set-up of an incident command post and post incident analysis.

    EMS Operations at Multi-Casualty Incidents (Q157)
    Emergency Medical Services


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    EMS Operations at Multi-Casualty Incidents is designed to help Emergency Medical Services (EMS) providers to respond more effectively when faced with a multiple casualty incident (MCI). The course addresses preparedness planning; the management of the incident; the safe and efficient triage, treatment, and transportation of patients; and the de-escalation of the response. The course also includes information on safely and effectively dealing with an MCI resulting from a terrorist attack involving a chemical, biological, radiological, nuclear, or explosive (CBRNE) agent. The course is not intended to provide detailed steps in the care of patients.

    Fire Service Supervision (Q318)
    Management Science


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    This 13-hour self-study course aims to give supervisors in the fire service some fundamental notions and attitudes on stress management, time management, interpersonal communications , motivation, counseling , conflict resolution , and group dynamics. The course relies heavily on learning activities embedded throughout the text to encourage the learner to be involved actively with the content, not just read the text from cover to cover and take a final exam.

    ICS-100, Introduction to ICS for Operational First Responders (Q462)
    Incident Management


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    This foundation level course is equivalent to National Wildfire Coordinating Group I-100. This course integrates the National Incident Management System (NIMS) guidelines and meets the NIMS Baseline Training requirements using an all-hazards, all-agency approach. It is the first in a series of courses designed to meet all-hazard, all-agency NIMS ICS requirement for operational personnel.

    ICS-200, Basic NIMS ICS for Operational First Responders (Q463)
    Incident Management


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    Developed by the U.S. Fire Administration's National Fire Programs Branch, in partnership with the FEMA's Emergency Management Institute, the U.S. Department of Agriculture and the National Wildfire Coordinating Group (NWCG), this 4-hour intermediate level course is a Web-based, self-study, interactive equivalent to NWCG I-200. The course integrates the NIMS guidelines and meets the NIMS Baseline Training Requirements using an all-hazards, all-agency approach. It is the second in a series of courses designed to meet all-hazard, all-agency NIMS ICS requirements for operational personnel.

    Emergency Response to Terrorism (Q534)
    Terrorism


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    This 10-hour self-paced, paper-based course is designed to provide the basic awareness training to prepare first responders to respond to incidents of terrorism safely and effectively. Students who successfully complete the exam will be eligible for a National Fire Academy Certificate of Training. Target Audience: Fire, emergency medical, hazmat, incident command and law enforcement responders.

    Self-Study Course for Community Safety Educators (Q118)
    Fire Prevention


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    The Self-Study Course for Community Safety Educators is a short, fun, "easy-to-take" Web-based course that focuses on how to do a better job of planning, implementing, and evaluating safety programs in your community. The course teaches you how to network effectively with various people in your organization and within your community to accomplish community life safety goals. The course is designed for all public fire and life safety educators--the new safety educator as well as the experienced educator, the volunteer as well as the career community educator.The Self-Study Course for Community Safety Educators is ideal in helping you "get your feet off the ground." It will assist you with some tips and techniques on a variety of topics such as methods for locating partners to assist with community education or techniques for locating resources for your safety programs. The program contains easy-to-read text with a variety of thought-provoking questions, activities, illustrations, and even traps to watch for. The course relies heavily on learning activities embedded throughout the text to encourage the learner to be involved actively with the content, not just read the text from cover to cover and take a final exam.

    Testing and Evaluation of Water Supplies for Fire Protection (Q218)
    Fire Prevention (Technical)


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    This course not only offers the opportunity to understand the testing and evaluation of water supplies, but also provides reference resources and several printable graph forms. The course covers the following areas: testing and evaluation of available water supplies for water supply systems; on-site storage systems; and rural areas not served by a water supply; determining water supply for automatic sprinklers, standpipe systems, and for fire suppression activities. Also included is a mastery test. The course emphasizes decisionmaking, predictions, and responses by students consistent with the course materials presented. Students can perform and/or reinforce previously learned skills, concepts, and behaviors. The course is interactive, self-paced, and self-directed and combines graphics, text, narration, animation, and video to promote implied learning objectives. The primary audience is fire suppression and training officers and code enforcement officials. This course addresses the professional competency related to Firefighter II for NFPA 1001, Fire Officers for NFPA 1021, Fire Inspector, Plans Examiner for NFPA 1031, and Training Officers for NFPA 1041, related to determining available fire flows for fire protection. Future Courses



    The following NFA Online courses are currently under construction and will be available by early Summer 2008. Please monitor this site for the announcement of their availability.


    Q324: Incident Command and Control Simulation Series: Ranch House
    Q325: Incident Command and Control Simulation Series: Townhouse
    Q326: Incident Command and Control Simulation Series: Mansion
    Q424: Incident Command and Control Simulation Series: Nursing Home
    Q464: Fundamentals Review for ICS 300
    Q466: Fundamentals Review for ICS 400
    Q618: Wildland/Urban Interface Fire Operations for the Structural Firefighter
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    The last time I checked on the ACE guide the only NFA courses evaluated for credit were the Q118, Q318, and Q534 courses.
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    Quote Originally Posted by truckie270 View Post
    The last time I checked on the ACE guide the only NFA courses evaluated for credit were the Q118, Q318, and Q534 courses.
    How do you search ACE for classes that have been reviewed by them for credit? I can't seem to find the link.

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    Nevermind I found it. Man there are lots of different ACE evaluated training. I wonder if there was a way we could sort through the ones that are free.

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    Well I registered on their site and tried to enroll in the Q318 course and it wouldn't let me. I wonder why...

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    Where is the site that shows the ACE reviewed FEMA courses??
    *ITT Technical Institute - Associates of Applied Science in Information Technology: Computer Networking Systems
    *Mt. Sierra College - Bachelors of Science in Telecommunications Technology
    *Keller GSoM - Master of Network and Communications Management (Enrolled)

    *Microsoft Certified Desktop Support Technician MCDST
    *MCP Windows XP (70-270), Windows Server 2003 (70-290)
    *ETA Computer Service Technician
    *ETA Certified Network Systems Technician
    *Future: CCNA, SCSA, CCNP, CCIP

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    Quote Originally Posted by firstmode4c View Post
    Where is the site that shows the ACE reviewed FEMA courses??
    I don't believe that any of the FEMA courses are ACE reviewed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by skidadl View Post
    I don't believe that any of the FEMA courses are ACE reviewed.

    AFAIK, only the above mentioned NFA courses from the independent study program are ACE reviewed. NFA IS and FEMA IS are not the same thing.
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    Will TESC take these RAW from NFA? Has anyone done this?

    Also, for the TESC BSBA degree, they accept up to 18 credits from FEMA. Will the three Q* classes count towards the gen electives or do they fall into the same bucket as the 18 FEME credits.

    21 credits vs. 18 credits - anyone know?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ultravista View Post
    Will TESC take these RAW from NFA? Has anyone done this?

    Also, for the TESC BSBA degree, they accept up to 18 credits from FEMA. Will the three Q* classes count towards the gen electives or do they fall into the same bucket as the 18 FEME credits.

    21 credits vs. 18 credits - anyone know?


    TESC accepts directly from NFA: Q118, Q318, and Q534. I can't speak to whether the NFA credits will be counted as being the same as FEMA with regard to the BSBA , but it was counted the same for me on the AAS.

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    PUG, how many FEMA & NFA credits did TESC accept and apply?

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    National Fire Acadedmy Independent Study Courses

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    Q118 and Q318 have an ACE credit rating.

    Thomas Edison State College
    Gives credit for Q118, Q318, and Q534.

    I have ACE and TESC transcripts with these courses on them.


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    Self-Study Course for Community Safey Educators (Q118)
    ACE Transcript Data: NNFA-0149
    Organization: National Emergency Training Center (NFA)
    Location: On USFA home page (Internet).
    Length: Self-paced (average time 17.5 hours).
    Dates: May 2000 – Present

    Description: SELF-PACED (AVERAGE TIME 17.5 HRS.) Student will be able to understand and explain various aspects of community safety education ; develop a coalition strategy; locate resources; and evaluate community safety education programs.

    Objective: To teach fire and emergency service personnel how to do a better job of planning, implementing, and evaluating safety programs, particularly in working with various people in the student's organization and within their community; to help students understand some of the basic concepts about how to get started with an organization's community safety education programs; and to assist students with some tips and techniques on a variety of topics such as methods for locating partners to assist with community education or techniques for locating resources for safety programs. The program is easy-reading, enjoyable and thought-provoking.

    Learning Outcome: Upon successful completion of this course, the student will be able to understand and explain various aspects of community safety education ; develop a coalition strategy; locate resources; and evaluate community safety education programs.

    Instruction: Major topics covered in the course are an overview of community safety education , identifying fire and injury problems, finding a partner, developing a coalition strategy, resources, implementation, and evaluation. Methods of instruction include exercises, case studies, learner presentations/reports, reading, a workbook, exercises, and final examination. The final examination is not proctored. NFA relies on its secure logon and password procedures for validity of student outcomes.

    Credit Recommendation: In the vocational certificate or lower division baccalaureate/associate degree category, 1 semester hour in Fire Science , Adult Education , General Education , Public Health, or Safety Studies (8/01) (6/05).

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    Fire Service Supervision: Self Study (Q318)
    ACE Transcript Data: NNFA-0145
    Organization: National Emergency Training Center (NFA)
    Location: Versions 1 and 2: Nationwide over the USFA/NFA Web site home page.
    Length: Version 1: 13 hours (self-study); Version 2: 13 hours (self-study).
    Dates: Version 1: May 2000 – June 2003; Version 2: July 2003 – Present
    Description: Version 1: 13 hours (self-study) The student will be able to describe techniques for identifying and alleviating stress upon an individual; develop strategies for improving time management; and explain techniques for effective interpersonal communications , motivating, counseling , and coaching subordinates, and conflict resolution .; Version 2: 13 hours (self-study). Student will be able to describe techniques for identifying and alleviating stress upon an individual; develop strategies for improving time management; and explain techniques for effective interpersonal communications , motivating, counseling , and coaching subordinates, and conflict resolution .

    Objective: Versions 1 and 2: To introduce public safety services managers and supervisors to principles and techniques of personal and personnel management.

    Learning Outcome: Versions 1 and 2: Upon successful completion of this course, the student will be able to describe techniques for identifying and alleviating stress upon an individual; develop strategies for improving time management; and explain techniques for effective interpersonal communications , motivating, counseling , and coaching subordinates, and conflict resolution .

    Instruction: Version 1: Major topics covered in the course are stress management, time management, interpersonal communications , employee motivation, counseling and coaching, conflict resolution , and group dynamics. Methods of instruction include case studies, computer-assisted instruction, structured individual activities, self tests at the conclusion of each module, and final examination.; Version 2: Major topics covered in the course are stress management, time management, interpersonal communications , employee motivation, counseling and coaching, conflict resolution , and group dynamics. Methods of instruction include case studies, computer-assisted instruction, individual activities. Method of evaluation includes self-tests and a final examination.

    Credit Recommendation: Version 1: In the lower division baccalaureate/associate or upper division baccalaureate degree category, 1 semester hour in Personnel or Human Resources Management, Business or Public Administration , Behavioral Science, Fire Science , Fire Administration, Law Enforcement , or Criminal Justice (6/00).; Version 2: In the vocational or lower division baccalaureate/associate category, 1 semester hour in Personnel or Human Resources Management, Business or Public Administration , Behavioral Science, Fire Science , Fire Administration, Law Enforcement , or Criminal Justice (7/03).
    Degrees? I don't want to tell. What's a degree again?
    Who told you that I had completed over 300 FEMA Independent Study courses?
    Forget DETC and RA, my degree has double secret accreditation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by truckie270 View Post
    AFAIK, only the above mentioned NFA courses from the independent study program are ACE reviewed. NFA IS and FEMA IS are not the same thing.
    In the American Council on Education catalog FEMA and the NFA are listed very much the same, though their independent study programs are run seperately.

    National Emergency Training Center (EMI)
    National Emergency Training Center (NFA)

    http://www.acenet.edu/nationalguide/search/index.cfm
    Degrees? I don't want to tell. What's a degree again?
    Who told you that I had completed over 300 FEMA Independent Study courses?
    Forget DETC and RA, my degree has double secret accreditation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MichaelGates View Post
    In the American Council on Education catalog FEMA and the NFA are listed very much the same, though their independent study programs are run seperately.

    National Emergency Training Center (EMI)
    National Emergency Training Center (NFA)

    http://www.acenet.edu/nationalguide/search/index.cfm
    Yes I know - my point was that there are NFA IS courses that are ACE evaluated. There are no EMI IS courses that are ACE evaluated, the only EMI courses that have ACE credit attached are in-the-seat courses at the NETC or delivered through the states. You can take those NFA IS courses to any college that recognizes ACE and get credit for them, but you are relegated to only a few choices for EMI IS credit.

    I know you are the SME on how this works, but I was making the distinction for the orginal poster. Most people are under the assumption that EMI and NFA IS courses are the same thing, but they are run separately as you mentioned.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ultravista View Post
    PUG, how many FEMA & NFA credits did TESC accept and apply?
    As part of the AAS/Occupational Studies degree, TESC accepted 27.

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    How do you get transcripts from the Q courses? I called the NFA and was told they do not offer transcripts of Q courses. I would have to print the certificate out and present it to my university.

    What steps are required to have TESC accept / acknowledge the NFA course credits?

    Confused ... :(

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