Options away from NCU for Ed. PhD

OK, so the NCU thread has me a little freaked out. I have taken six courses and would look at other options, but I am only seeing expensive programs that will accept maybe one of my classes that also have a residency. What other options are out there that won't break the bank and maybe take more of my courses. I dismissed overseas after looking into it.

 

I don't think there is very much else to look at given your criteria. Maybe you should give overseas a bit more consideration. What were your reasons for not liking overseas programs? I found some Australian programs to be to my liking.

I will admit there is a concern looming out there about NCU. They've tried the Asian sneak attack previously which didn't set well with many. There were a number of threads circulating on that one here. If I recall correctly, they were allowing doctoral programs in Asia that had different requirements... almost doctorate lite type programs. When many on this forum made a complaint the school shut down the Asian websites and claimed to not know anything about them.

Maybe you should put your coursework on hold at NCU and wait it out to see what the accreditors do. Your fears might be more calmed if they are re-accredited. If they don't do so well in the process then that might be the kiss of death for them in the U.S. However, even if they do get whacked by the accreditors you'd still have your 6 courses of RA credits.

Bing

 

Hi I think Liberty University has an affordable Ed.D program. Tuition is 425 per semester credit hour, but they do have 3 on campus intensives you have to attend. When I had inquired about the program, I was told that you can do those in the summer and you are actually doing a very condensed class that week:
http://www.luonline.com/index.cfm?PID=14379

 

No residency is going to be the dealbreaker....I believe NCU is the only RA true non-residential doctoral program in the United States.

If it has to be a Ph.D. (rather than the Ed.D.), three options are;

Capella University - http://www.capella.edu/schools_programs/profession/higher_ed.aspx

Walden University - http://www.waldenu.edu/c/Schools/Schools_1132.htm

University of Nebraska - http://cehs.unl.edu/edad/graduate/hedoc.shtml

 

There is also TUI University which has a PhD in Educational Leadership, without any residencies:

http://www.tuiu.edu/coe/phd.html

 

I don't think you'll find many doctoral programs that will accept six classes (18 hrs.?) in transfer.

 

There might be some options for you here http://forums.degreeinfo.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=27662 , but, as I said before, I think it'll be difficult getting 18 hrs. accepted in transfer at the doctoral level.

 

Probably the worst that could happen to NCU's accreditation status is that they are put on probation (I recall that CSUDH was on probation when I did my masters degree there). NCU would most likely have several years to correct any deficiencies.

Of course they could also go out of business but so could any private school. In this case other schools might grant an exemption to their credit transfer limit.

 

I just looked at the North Central Association website
http://www.ncahlc.org/download/Handbook03.pdf
Schools put on notice or put on probation have two years max to fix any problems.

 

Well NCU got ONLY 3 years accreditation. The visiting team left today and recommended 3 years -all due to governance issues. They want the board to report to them after each meeting with minutes, and a full comprehensive in another 3 years. If I were going for a doctorate, I would steer away now as it will take most people longer than 3 years and they have a lot to provie now that they have completely taken out all of their academic infrastructure to make more money for the owner. luckily I only have to finish my MBA, as I already have a doctorate and wanted a MBA in homeland security. I will done in three months. The postings by the dean of business was misleading-she made it sound like they got full ten years-NOT SO. Only3. Other than probation that is as bad as you can get.

 

"Well NCU got ONLY 3 years accreditation. The visiting team left today and recommended 3 years -all due to governance issues."

This makes no sense. I have read every utterance by the students that attended the site teams visit. Nowhere is there a single word of what the site team said, other than they would recommend reaffirmation.

I challenge you to document your assertion with a name from NCU that can be verified as having attended a briefing by the site team where they used the word "conditional." Commonly the team will just advise they are recommending reaffirmation or not. The full report will be published in 3 to 6 months.

I doubt this poster was "in" the room at the outbrief.

 

Click here to see what Dr. Freda Turner wrote about regional accreditation for NCU.

 

NCU Accredation Re-Affirmation

Agreed, meagain, there is nothing in Dr. Turner's comment to her Leadership team that suggests a "conditional" reaffirmation.

We won't even know the context of what they actually recommend until the full report comes out. And, that is probably no sooner than 3 months from now, and more likely 6 months from now. In the meantime, we only know the school receives a recommendation of reaffirmation of their accreditation from the HLC. That is all we know.

Specious posts that have no basis in fact, but are maliciously posted to detract from a valid program of education are just that, specious and nefarious. They are to be discounted until the poster gives factual evidence of what they are claiming. Otherwise it is just ugly gossip, just as some neighborhood nag standing at a backyard fence rumormongering with another neighbor nag, it is to be ignored.

'Nuff said.

 

I agree that a poster should give factual evidence. However, even ugly gossip should receive at least minimal attention and consideration. I agree that NCU students should not base their academic career on an anonymous post. A call to the HLC may provide some answers and facts.

 

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