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    SoldierInGA is offline Registered User
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    Importance of ABET for engineering programs

    How important is it to choose a program that has or might not have ABET accreditation?
    Does it hold any importance in consideration for employment or further study at doctorate level?

    The program that I'm thinking about is Iowa State's Computer or System engineering program

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    ABET accreditation is the standard Professional Accreditor (PA) in the engineering field. They are unusual in that they normally accredit a given program at either the graudate or undergraduate level but not both.

    Attending an ABET accredited undergraduate program is very desireable if you later want to pursue graduate work at the masters level or if you want to sit for the PE exam. Some schools and states won't allow you to gain admission / sit for the PE with out an ABET accredited degree.

    As for Iowa State - I doubt you'll have any problem doing anything you want with a MS from there. Iowa State is ABET accredited - but they choose to have their BS degrees accredited (which is typical) and not their grad program.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SoldierInGA View Post
    How important is it to choose a program that has or might not have ABET accreditation?
    Does it hold any importance in consideration for employment or further study at doctorate level?

    The program that I'm thinking about is Iowa State's Computer or System engineering program
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    Thanks Andy! :)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Andy Borchers View Post
    They are unusual in that they normally accredit a given program at either the graudate or undergraduate level but not both.

    Regards - Andy
    That does seem odd. Does ABET give any explanation for this?
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    SoldierInGA is offline Registered User
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    I must have been tired yesterday and didn't peruse the FAQs comme il faut!

    This was right in their FAQs:

    Are the graduate programs through Engineering Distance Education ABET accredited?

    Technically, very few Graduate programs are ABET Accredited, because ABET accreditation can only be granted to one program (Bachelors, MS or PhD) within each institution and most institutions (like ours) accredits their BS program. Most Engineering MS programs (including ours) rigorously enforce pre-requisite classes so that most licensing bodies will accept an MS degree from such an institution to meet the educational requirements for licensure.
    But at about $1600 per course, they don't come cheap!

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    I've hired about 25 engineers - never once have I enquired whether their degrees were ABET. Their experience counted for more - if no professional experience then they must have had a previous job or engineering oriented hobby. Everyone I hired turned out great.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ian Anderson View Post
    I've hired about 25 engineers - never once have I enquired whether their degrees were ABET. Their experience counted for more - if no professional experience then they must have had a previous job or engineering oriented hobby. Everyone I hired turned out great.
    I agree. Although all of the engineers I have hired have ABET degrees, it was not part of my decision. I would much rather have the right kind of person and train them to do the specifics that I need done, than to worry about the right pedigree.

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    Thank you for the feedback.
    Another question: is there an age limit to "transition" into engineering jobs? I understand that age discrimination is against the law but productive years in a certain job or field have to be considered.
    My situation: I was a military veteran when I finally finished my BSIS in 04. I worked in tech support for a while then went back in the military in late 06. I plan to get out when my officer service obligation is up. By the time I finish a master's in computer engineering , I'd be 37-38. Would this "advanced age" hurt in finding jobs in engineering companies as a green wet-behind-the-ears engineer ?

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    The PE is almost a necessity if one works on public projects. You will find Civil Engineers , Agricultural Engineers , and Architectural Engineers often need the PE to work for companies doing public projects.

    Most companies don't care about a PE. However, my company hires a lot of chemical engineers . One thing they do is give a bonus to those who attain the PE. Most engineers I work with don't have a PE.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SoldierInGA View Post
    Thank you for the feedback.
    Another question: is there an age limit to "transition" into engineering jobs? I understand that age discrimination is against the law but productive years in a certain job or field have to be considered.
    My situation: I was a military veteran when I finally finished my BSIS in 04. I worked in tech support for a while then went back in the military in late 06. I plan to get out when my officer service obligation is up. By the time I finish a master's in computer engineering, I'd be 37-38. Would this "advanced age" hurt in finding jobs in engineering companies as a green wet-behind-the-ears engineer?
    Wouldn't hurt in my opinion (at least not in my organization). You have plenty of other experience.

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