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    Bradley Garrett is offline Registered User
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    Post Indiana State Ph.D. program

    Any information on the Ph.D. program at ISU in Technology Management? Good, bad, otherwise ...

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    Originally posted by Bradley Garrett:
    Any information on the Ph.D. program at ISU in Technology Management? Good, bad, otherwise ...

    Thanks,

    Bradley
    I think it looks very good. It provides a solid overview of the field and allows for specialization in several areas. However, the whole program seems a little confusing to me due to its association with several other universities. It looks as though one would (probably must) take coursework from several of the participating universities. I'd like to see them market this program better. I get the sense that it is a program developed with good intentions but the whole process just isn't clear. If cost was not an issue with me, this would be high on my list and would have made phone contact with the folks at Indiana State . It would be well worth the effort to contact them. As it is, I'm considering a somewhat similar (and less expensive) Ph.D. program from Northcentral University. Be aware that NCU has not yet received regional accreditation but has acheived candidacy status. Good luck.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bradley Garrett View Post
    Any information on the Ph.D. program at ISU in Technology Management? Good, bad, otherwise ...

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    Bradley
    The program was recommended to me by my former instructors and professors at my my undergrad (B & M) university, and I have spoken directly with a few program graduates via email and phone. I posted a request to hear from enrolled phd candidates here some time ago, but got no replies. Have you had any luck with contacting program graduates?
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    The program is offered by a consortium of 5 universities. The content looks very good and they responded to queries quickly. According to the program admin the total cost would be between $21,000 to $23,000 depending on the parent university/program specializations etc. Not much publicity though.

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    I have looked into the program in the past and have heard nothing but good things about it. The only problem that I had with the program was the specializations (Construction Management , Digital Comm Systems, HR & Industrial Training, Quality Systems, etc), none of which were interesting to me. If they had a few more interesting specializations, I would have considered them for my doctoral work.

    Another option:
    You may also want to consider Univ of Alabama - Huntsville's PhD in Engineering Management it is another B&M program that allows for part-time PhD work via DL. You can find out more about UAH's program at http://www.iseem.uah.edu/graduate/index.shtml under the Engineering Management PhD. Of course, there are other programs too, but the UAH program is a similar program to ISU.
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    Eric raises a good point. The choice for specializations might not be as interesting to some students as others. However, "It is anticipated that additional specializations will be developed with the changing nature of technology studies." Perhaps a phone call, or email to Helen Hoffa might be useful. She was the person that put me in direct contact with students who successfully completed the program.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BoogieRambler View Post
    Eric raises a good point. The choice for specializations might not be as interesting to some students as others. However, "It is anticipated that additional specializations will be developed with the changing nature of technology studies." Perhaps a phone call, or email to Helen Hoffa might be useful. She was the person that put me in direct contact with students who successfully completed the program.
    Good point.....a phone call to the school is well worth the effort...plus if they get enough calls, they may being to look at other specializations.
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    Both school's PhD programs look interesting. However, they both seem to have some pretty heavy residency requirements.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rabbuhl View Post
    Both school's PhD programs look interesting. However, they both seem to have some pretty heavy residency requirements.
    rabbuhl,

    Good point. However, there are those students-- and I am one of them-- that prefer a residency component.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rabbuhl View Post
    Both school's PhD programs look interesting. However, they both seem to have some pretty heavy residency requirements.
    UAH (according to the prof I talked to there) doesn't require any campus visits during the coursework. They do require a visit to do the comps exam and they recommend a few visits during the dissertation phase.
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    The Colorado State IEOR program also looks interesting. It seems that the residency requirements are 2-3 days a semester for 4 or 5 of the classes with the rest being done at home.

    see: http://www.csu2learn.colostate.edu/d...industrial.asp
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    Nice program. This Ph.D would provide a solid background for a job applying predictive analytics?
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    Quote Originally Posted by KariS View Post
    The Colorado State IEOR program also looks interesting. It seems that the residency requirements are 2-3 days a semester for 4 or 5 of the classes with the rest being done at home.

    see: http://www.csu2learn.colostate.edu/d...industrial.asp
    I know a person attending this program. He really enjoys the coursework and the people are very good. There are on-campus visits required for a few of the courses.
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    A reply - Indiana State

    One key observation - for the Univ. of Alabama you must have an engineering degree with a minimum 3.0 from an ABET accredited school to gain admission.

    The Indiana State program has been often discussed in various NGs, but I've never heard from a graduate. That doesn't mean it is bad - just less known.

    Regards -Andy

    Quote Originally Posted by eric.brown View Post

    Another option:
    You may also want to consider Univ of Alabama - Huntsville's PhD in Engineering Management it is another B&M program that allows for part-time PhD work via DL. You can find out more about UAH's program at http://www.iseem.uah.edu/graduate/index.shtml under the Engineering Management PhD. Of course, there are other programs too, but the UAH program is a similar program to ISU.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KariS View Post
    The Colorado State IEOR program also looks interesting. It seems that the residency requirements are 2-3 days a semester for 4 or 5 of the classes with the rest being done at home.

    see: http://www.csu2learn.colostate.edu/d...industrial.asp
    BTW - I checked into this program a while ago and, while this program does not require a degree in engineering for admittance, it does require a considerable amount of engineering knowledge to pass the diagnostic exam.

    This is a quote from their prerequisites:

    Non-engineering degree students, especially those with backgrounds in mathematics, statistics and the sciences, are encouraged to apply. Depending on their experience, such students may be asked to take two or three courses in a mechanics, materials or thermofluids sequence.
    Two or three courses in a mechanics, materials or thermofluids sequence doesn't sound too bad, but if you don't have the math and physics courses needed for these courses, then it looks really bad. For me, I have the math but I don't have the physics courses which are usually a prerequisite for the mechanics, materials or thermofluids sequence. When I asked CSU about this their response was that this is a PhD in mechanical engineering with an IEOR specialization. Nonetheless I was really disappointed because I have the necessary background to do the IEOR courses, but I don't have the necessary background to pass the diagnostic exam.
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    The Indiana State Program

    I have attended Indiana State University for my undergraduate program. I'm still considering the Technical Management Doctorate after I have achieved my Masters. I have never heard anything but good things about the program. Some of the staff are respected authors in their field of Technical Management. They are also consultants for major firms and societies.
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