Ed.S worth it?

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  1. makana793

    makana793 New Member

    Greetings fellow distance learners. I was just wondering what are some of your thoughts regarding the value of an Ed.S. Is it worth pursuing is a doctorate better in the long run.
     
  2. RFValve

    RFValve Well-Known Member

    EdS are mainly for teachers wanting a pay increase. I know at least one that went for a EdS as this degree would put her in the highest bracket.
     
  3. elevation02

    elevation02 New Member

    Ed.S - Pro

    Hi:

    I'm a current Ed.S student at Northwestern State University in their Educational Technology program. I'm a fan of taking the Ed.S route, and believe me I have knocked every option around in my head for a long time now, as it has two major advantages versus going straight Doctoral program. They are:

    1) You receive a degree designation at the end of the 30 credit hours

    2) A growing number of programs will accept you into their Ed.D program and give you credit for your Ed.S work. So you receive another degree designation and your hard work will be applied toward an Ed.D program.

    And...if the tuition at the Ed.S school is lower than the Ed.D school, you could save a tremendous amount of money.

    Northwestern State university has been top-notch so far and I am enjoying my course. If anyone would like further info on this program, feel free to e-mail me at: [email protected] or ask for a response on this forum.

    I'd be glad to help as this board has really helped me out.

    Ian
     
  4. SteveFoerster

    SteveFoerster Resident Gadfly Staff Member

    Are any distance programs? I know only of Liberty University, whose Doctor of Education program is available by distance and which says, "Up to half of the hours of coursework for the EdD program can be applied from an accredited EdS program with a conferred degree."

    -=Steve=-
     
  5. elevation02

    elevation02 New Member

    Hi Steve:

    I know Liberty will and NCU will also accept your credits. In Canada, the University of Calgary and Athabasca U will review your Ed.S transcripts and make the "appropriate" deductions in the anticipated course rotation.

    All these programs, with the exception of NCU & Athabasca, require a summer session on campus.

    If anyone knows of other Ed.D programs that will accept Ed.S credits, let us know!

    Ian
     
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  6. cookderosa

    cookderosa Resident Chef

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    Yep- In my backyard! Western Illinois University's Ed.D "accepts" Ed.S by way of requirement!
     
  7. makana793

    makana793 New Member

    The reason I ask is that Liberty has a Ed.S with specializations in leadership or teaching/learning via DL. I liked the leadership curriculum because it had a lot of courses dealing with administration, conflict resolution, etc. you know things that you can use in government and non-profit work. I don't work in the field of the education, and its not a requirement for entry into Liberty. I as just wondering if I would be wasting my time going this route as opposed to a full on doctorate program.
     
  8. elevation02

    elevation02 New Member

    If you're going to take the Ed.D at Liberty, then the Ed.S seems like a natural progression. They accept all the credits toward the Ed.D program and, as a bonus, you'd have an extra degree designation on your resume. This could never hurt.

    Jennifer - thanks for the heads up on Western Illinois, I didn't know they had an Ed.D program.

    Ian
     
  9. SteveFoerster

    SteveFoerster Resident Gadfly Staff Member

    Interesting! Do they have a distance program?

    -=Steve=-
     
  10. cookderosa

    cookderosa Resident Chef

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    WIU has distance ed CLASSES, but I am unsure about how that fits into this program. So, without serious inquiry, the best I can tell is- not yet. I say not yet, because if you do some digging, you can see they created a "distance" page within the education college website. When you click on the distance link, it says "coming soon" so I do hope to see at least something added. I only know one real person (my former supervisor) who has completed the Ed.S program, and he did summer sessions for the entire program over a few years; as far as I know, they were all on campus.

    To those in the know about these types of degrees- It looks like Western Illinois requires 33 (?) credits for the specialist degree, then an additional 48(?) for the doctorate. Thats 81 beyond the masters- does that sound right?
     
  11. makana793

    makana793 New Member

    Hey folks one last question. Is the Ed.S considered a doctorate degree? or just a terminal degree.
     
  12. airtorn

    airtorn Moderator

    It is neither a doctorate nor a terminal degree.
     
  13. makana793

    makana793 New Member

    Thanks. I guess I had that one coming. :)
     
  14. raristud2

    raristud2 New Member

    Interesting history of the specialist degree

    "The specialist degree (Russian: ñïåöèàëèñò) was also the only first degree in the former Soviet Union. In the early 1990s bakalavr (Bachelor's) and magistr (Master's) degrees were introduced in all the countries of the Commonwealth of Independent States, except in Turkmenistan. However, the specialist degree stayed the most often granted degree in Belarus, Kazakhstan, Russia, Tadschikistan and Ukraine up until today.

    "The specialist degrees in Armenia, Azerbaijan, Georgia, Kyrgyzstan, Moldova, Turkmenistan and Uzbekistan were renamed to diplom degrees. Actually there are some similarities between the specialist degree in the CIS and the German Diplom degree."

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Specialist_degree
     
  15. AdamJLaw

    AdamJLaw New Member

    EdS

    I am about to complete a Masters in Special Education and soon want to make a move to administration. I will end up completing a Masters in Administration just because the credential is part of the program. I know I want to pursue a PhD or an EdD in the near future. I want to go to a prestigious school. I am seriously considering the EdS from University of Florida in Teacher Leadership for School Improvement. The reason is that I feel that this degree will further strengthen my resume for both my career and the chances of me getting into an EdD program at a school like Colombia. Is my reasoning correct?
     
  16. basrsu

    basrsu Member

    Airtorn: "It is neither a doctorate nor a terminal degree."


    Correct...it is not a doctorate. But yes, it is considered to be a terminal degree by many--if not most--institutions of higher learning. To wit:

    Pittsburg State University: http://www.pittstate.edu/tm/EdS/

    Rider University: http://www.rider.edu/172_6999.htm

    University of Georgia: http://www.coe.uga.edu/epit/acd/eds/index.html

    University of Wisconsin, Stout: http://minfo.uwstout.edu/faculty/senates/fs/prc/2005-2006/cartecheds.html

    University of Nebraska, Lincoln: http://www.unl.edu/barkley/sped/eds.shtml

    University of Toledo: http://catalog.utoledo.edu/98-00catalog/gr-edspecial-educ.html

    University of South Florida: http://www.coedu.usf.edu/main/departments/ce/EducationSpecialist.html

    And the list goes on and on and on...

    basrsu
     
  17. SteveFoerster

    SteveFoerster Resident Gadfly Staff Member

    Do you mean Columbia University in New York, or Universidad Nacional de Colombia in Bogotá?

    Either way, where are your Masters' degrees from? Is your grade point average high? How are your GREs? If they're all solid, why not just apply to where you really want to go and see what happens? If you're rejected, you can always ask them whether an EdS from somewhere like Florida would help.

    -=Steve=-
     
  18. AdamJLaw

    AdamJLaw New Member

    Colombia in New York

    Yes, it is the colombia in New York, number one education school. My masters in special education is from National University. My masters in administration will be from either Chapman University or California State University Stanislaus. (local school where I live) I do have the option to go to University of the Pacific as well but their program is a little longer. I haven't taken the GRE yet. My GPA for my BA is 3.48 For my MA in special ed it is 3.5 but after this class it will be a 3.65.
     
  19. lesann

    lesann New Member

    EdS suggestions?

    Hello,

    I teach English fulltime at a two-year college, and I’m looking to break into teaching education courses and at the same time move up on the salary schedule. So, I’m trying to find a relatively inexpensive Educational Specialist (Ed.S.) program that 100% online and that is NOT in instructional technology. The specific areas I’m interested in include curriculum and instruction, educational psychology, learning theory, adult education, etc. -- just not instructional technology, elementary education, etc. Does anyone have suggestions for me?

    Thanks in advance!

    --Lesann

    M.Ed., Reading, University of Arkansas
    B.S.E., Elementary Education, John Brown University
    A.A., North Arkansas College
     
  20. SteveFoerster

    SteveFoerster Resident Gadfly Staff Member

    Liberty University, and their tuition rate is reasonable:

    http://www.luonline.com/index.cfm?PID=14383

    They're an evangelical Christian institution, but evidently that's more an influence on the character of their on campus programs than their distance learning programs.

    -=Steve=-
     

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