Any way I can salvage 30 grad hours of philosophy from 91-93?

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  1. mknehr

    mknehr New Member

    Hi All,
    does anyone know how i can reasonably put 30 hours of graduate philosophy coursework to use in a degree program??

    these hours were from University of Toledo (Ohio), 1991-1993, which makes them too dated for many schools to accept towards a degree...

    I'd sure like to try to salvage these if at all possible..

    thanks for any advise,
    Mike
     
  2. Dave Wagner

    Dave Wagner Active Member

    You might start by talking to Excelsior, Charter Oak, or Thomas Edison and ask this question. I'll bet they can help you. I don't recall any time restrictions on transferring credits but you can check the online policies of each.

    Dave
     
  3. back2cali

    back2cali New Member

    If a state licensed degree would suit your needs, you may be able to transfer all of your credit to Breyer State.
     
  4. Randell1234

    Randell1234 Moderator

    Are you looking for a graduate degree or undergrad degree?
     
  5. Randell1234

    Randell1234 Moderator

    I am curious about this school. They list the following statement on the website:
    We are pleased to announce that Breyer State University has been granted institutional accreditation by the Central States Consortium of Colleges and Schools. This accreditation means that after a comprehensive review of all standards, by an outside team of surveyors, Breyer State University was found to be in full compliance. Institutional approval means that all curriculums, programs, and courses are accredited. Breyer State University received a 5-year accreditation, until 2007.

    When I click on the link for accreditation, I was able to find two schools accredited by this group Canyon and Breyer. Does anyone find that strange? Are they state licensed or accreditied?
     
  6. SteveFoerster

    SteveFoerster Resident Gadfly Staff Member

    They're absolute crap. The "Central States Consortium of Colleges and Schools" is bogus, so named to fool people into thinking they're legitimate, like Middle State or North Central Association. Breyer State is truly "BS"U.

    More on Breyer State

    As for Charter Oak, et al., the poster has graduate credits, not undergraduate ones. He might be able to transfer as much as 15 credits to Excelsior's MA in Liberal Studies, but he'd still need to take six more to finish.

    -=Steve=-
     
  7. mknehr

    mknehr New Member

    Hi Randell1234,
    I'd prefer a Masters program, but if i could aply graduate classes to an underghraduate degree, id still look at it as a 'plan B'.
     
  8. Steve Levicoff

    Steve Levicoff Well-Known Member

    Welcome to degreeinfo, mknehr.

    Nix the idea of using these credits for a graduate degree - undergrad credits are never applied to a grad degree, and most grad degree programs will take only six (grad-level) credits in transfer.

    However, your credits should be good toward any undergrad program - philosophy credits don't expire. (Even at schools like TESC, you only have to have a "demonstration of currency" in subjects, such as business, in which the body of knowledge changes on a regular basis.)

    If you're looking for a master's program, that implies that you may already hold a bachelor's degree. If so, with 30 credits in philosophy, you may be able to immediately (or almost immediately) qualify for a second bachelor's through COSC/Excelsior/TESC. If you do not already hold one, you may already have the requirements for your major pretty much completed.
     
  9. Ian Anderson

    Ian Anderson Active Member

    Excelsior's MALS will accept up to 15 graduate units, TESC's MALS wil accept up to 6 units, and CSUDH MA in Humanities will accept up to 9 units.

    If you are looking for a second Bachelor degree then Excelsior requires 30 units however the degree must be in a different category than your first degree.

    If all else fails it still looks good to state on your resume that you have 30 grad units (e.g. Completed 30 of 33 units towards an MA in Philosophy at U of Toledo).
     
  10. dlady

    dlady Active Member

    APUS will accept 15 graduate credits into its DL humanities program

    http://www.apu.apus.edu/Admissions/graduate.htm

    Also, this may be a silly question, but with 30 graduate credits already from the University of Toledo, why not just work it out with them to finish? They have DL just like many other schools, and the hardship of getting 6 more credits with them may be less than 21 (assuming you can transfer in 15 into a 36 credit MA) with some other school…
     
  11. Dave Wagner

    Dave Wagner Active Member

    I tend to agree... The fake accreditation thing makes it impossible to consider Breyer State for any practical purpose. Besides, why take 30 respectable graduate units from the University of Toledo, which could be listed on a resume and then make them questionable with a Breyer State wrapper. No, it doesn't make sense.

    Dave
     
  12. mknehr

    mknehr New Member


    Hi David,
    the problem i'm finding is the age of the coursework. Toledo is a no-go becouse they have a firm 7-year limit on completing a graduate program, (these are 13 years old) which is why i'm hunting for programs with generouse acceptance of older coursework at the graduate level.
     
  13. SteveFoerster

    SteveFoerster Resident Gadfly Staff Member

    Excelsior is the least likely to balk that that, and their MA in Liberal Studies is 33 credits, not 36, so you'd need six courses. If you took them all in a different discipline you'd be qualified to teach undergraduate courses in both philosophy and the other discipline, if that interests you.

    -=Steve=-
     
  14. Randell1234

    Randell1234 Moderator

    Steve,
    I think you missed something - mknehr said they were graduate credits.
     
  15. Kizmet

    Kizmet Moderator

    Some schools have systems like this that could work for you

    http://www.unisa.ac.za/default.asp?Cmd=ViewContent&ContentID=16608
     
  16. Michael Wilson

    Michael Wilson New Member

    You might try Skidmore's Master of Arts in Liberal Studies. The last I heard, they allowed courses of any age to be transferred.
    http://www.skidmore.edu/mals/
     
  17. Dave Wagner

    Dave Wagner Active Member

    Mike, I think you're going to have so many options that it will be hard to decide. By the way, for what purpose do you intend to use the degree? Advancement at work or business? Teaching? Personal fulfillment? Those answers may help cull the non-fitting options.

    Dave
     
  18. airtorn

    airtorn Moderator

    They require the credits to be earned within the last ten years.
     
  19. mknehr

    mknehr New Member

    Hi Dave,
    I'm not planning on using the Philosophy to teach, and it's not a strong selling point professionally.

    I already hold a traditional MA from Duquesne University (Social and Public Policy), and am two weeks away from completing the DL MLS from FHSU in Organizational Leadership, and i'm chipping away at WKU's DL MBA (still need 8 classes).

    so i guess its mostly just the chance to put those two years of incomplete studies to rest. Prefferably at the graduate level, but from what i can tell, only a few classes would be salvagable (for a second MLS) and the cost of completing the additional work is a deterrant.

    The BA option is looking like the better option and i'll plan to apply to both TESC and Charter Oak and see which one would have the lower sticker price for the BA.

    If anyone has seen a better way to apply this, i'm very open to any ideas.

    thanks again for all the tips and suggestions.

    take care,
    Mike
     
  20. cookderosa

    cookderosa Resident Chef

    Hi Dave,
    I'm not planning on using the Philosophy to teach, and it's not a strong selling point professionally.

    I already hold a traditional MA from Duquesne University (Social and Public Policy), and am two weeks away from completing the DL MLS from FHSU in Organizational Leadership, and i'm chipping away at WKU's DL MBA (still need 8 classes).

    so i guess its mostly just the chance to put those two years of incomplete studies to rest. Prefferably at the graduate level, but from what i can tell, only a few classes would be salvagable (for a second MLS) and the cost of completing the additional work is a deterrant.

    The BA option is looking like the better option and i'll plan to apply to both TESC and Charter Oak and see which one would have the lower sticker price for the BA.

    If anyone has seen a better way to apply this, i'm very open to any ideas.

    thanks again for all the tips and suggestions.

    take care,
    Mike
    >>

    You said you were not planning to teach- however your resume looks good for public K-12 administration. If you have considered administration in middle/high school, you can use the "masters + 30" to start in a higher pay category. That is one of the benchmark levels. You should check your state requirements, you might already have most all of the boxes checked. Just tossin' in two cents.
     

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