university of san jose

Discussion in 'General Distance Learning Discussions' started by pjm, Oct 17, 2001.

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  1. pjm

    pjm New Member

    hi folks. is anyone aware if the u san jose is a legitimate degree or another migs debacle. many thanks.
     
  2. Rich Douglas

    Rich Douglas Well-Known Member

    No one knows. The Costa Rican Embassy was aware of this school (now called Empresarial University), but was unsure of its legitimate recognition in Costa Rica. This was especially true as it applied to their doctoral programs, run from the U.S. (in Georgia). I never got a straight answer from Empresarial, either.

    It reminds me of MIGS, but without the CEU.

    Rich Douglas
     
  3. Timmy Ade

    Timmy Ade New Member

    “It reminds me of MIGS, but without the CEU.”
    For your info, and hopefully for the last time, THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS MIGS WITHOUT THE CEU, THEY ARE ONE IN ONE UNLESS YOU CAN PROOVE OTHERWISE.
    Peace,
    Timmy.

    “It reminds me of MIGS, but without the CEU.”
    For your info, and hopefully for the last time, THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS MIGS WITHOUT THE CEU, THEY ARE ONE IN ONE UNLESS YOU CAN PROOVE OTHERWISE.
    Peace,
    Timmy.
     
  4. Steve Nair

    Steve Nair New Member

    Mr. Douglas,

    I believe Dr. Bear's book clearly identifies UNEM as a fully accredited school offering Ph.D. programmes in Costa Rica. Dr. Bear's earlier postings at this forum also state that UNEM is legitimate. Yet, you assert now (and as before) that UNEM is not "leagl." Would you be kind enough to explain why do you think UNEM is not legitimate?
     
  5. Rich Douglas

    Rich Douglas Well-Known Member

    Can you or anyone find them listed in any recognized guide listing recognized Costa Rican institutions?

    I didn't say they weren't "leagl." sic[/i} But the Costa Rican embassy was unaware of them, even after receiving multiple inquiries about the school. Dr Cannon of Empresarial was very evasive in my one-hour conversation about the school. (He said the paperwork was on the way. That was two years ago.)

    I'm not saying they're not legal or not recognized. I'm asking where I can verify the same.

    Rich Douglas
     
  6. Rich Douglas

    Rich Douglas Well-Known Member

    And yet, there is. MIGS is a business (Oxbridge Ltd., I think) owned by Americans, incorporated in Nevada, and doing business in Florida and Texas (their claim, not mine). They have a contractual arrangement with the CEU to operate master's and doctoral programs. There is nothing inherently wrong with such an arrangement, properly executed.

    I, nor anyone else, has to "prove otherwise." MIGS itself stipulates it is so through its incorporation documents and its lawsuit against Levicoff. That MIGS is a separate business in a contractual arrangement with the CEU has never been in dispute by any party.

    Rich Douglas
     
  7. Steve Nair

    Steve Nair New Member

    Mr. Douglas,

    Thank you very much for the reply. I used to believe that Dr. Bear's book was the ultimate authority for a layperson to find whether a DL program is properly evaluated, accredited, and accepted in the U.S. I did not know that the school must also be listed with the embassy of the respective country of origin. I stand corrected.
     
  8. Rich Douglas

    Rich Douglas Well-Known Member

    Sarcasm noted. While Bears' guides are the definitive resource, they are not the only ones. And things change over time. Schools listed in one fashion in one edition might be listed differently in a subsequent one.

    There is still no clear-cut answer regarding UNEM. The embassy is a good place to check; I checked with the liaison for educational matters. They did not think UNEM was approved to offer graduate degrees.

    If you have some other, definitive source of information regarding UNEM, please share it. Until then, it might help to discern the difference between a question and an answer, and not to confuse the former for the latter.

    Rich Douglas
     
  9. Caballero Lacaye

    Caballero Lacaye New Member


    Dear Rich,

    I have offered my help before, but I haven't received any replies yet.

    If anybody is interested, I can offer my humble knowledge to traslate any letter or fax or electronic mail from English into Spanish. Then, we can send those to the Ministry of Education in San José, Costa Rica to try to get a clear response. Yes, I have its address or I can find it. I have even been there while transfering Nicaraguan credits.

    While embassies are usually a good place to get information, they are not always up to date, at least in the case of some embassies. Strangely, some months ago I contacted the Costa Rican embassy asking for the fax number of a hospital in a suburb of San José, and they told me that didn't have that information (?). I wonder if they don't deal with hospitals outside of San José.

    Respecfully yours,


    Karlos Alberto "Br. Caballero" Lacaye
    [email protected]
     
  10. Rich Douglas

    Rich Douglas Well-Known Member

    Karlos:

    I would encourage you to take whatever measures you could to bridge this gap, and then report what you find. It would be wonderful if UNEM is a legitimate opportunity to earn a graduate degree that would be recognized. As it stands, however, the information they provide indicates something else (no listed faculty, one-price tuition, considerable doctoral credit transferred in, no clear connection to a Costa Rican operation, etc.).

    Let us know what you find out!

    Rich Douglas
     
  11. Caballero Lacaye

    Caballero Lacaye New Member


    Hi, Rich!

    Yes, I will let you know and the group about my findings, particularly if I travel to the region for the holidays which I think I will do.

    Take care,


    K>A>L>
     
  12. Steve Nair

    Steve Nair New Member

    Karlos,

    When would you be arriving in San Jose? I am planning to be in the vicinity during the first two weeks in December.
    [email protected]

    Steve Nair
     
  13. Caballero Lacaye

    Caballero Lacaye New Member


    Hi, Steve!

    I am not sure when I will be visiting San José. It could be in December or it could be in January. If my schedule is tight, I might even not go to San José, though I really want to go, and if I don't go now, I will go later. Where I will definitely go is to Nicaragua, where I will be spending some weeks, including the holidays.

    In any event, is there a possibility that you go to Guanacaste in Costa Rica, near Nicaragua? I know a big restaurant there where we can meet. I am telling you this because I can easily go to Guanacaste from Managua. Otherwise, let's hope that I travel to San José while you are there.

    Kindest regards,


    Karlos Alberto "Caballero" Lacaye
    [email protected]
     

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