University of Phoenix also ACBSP?

Discussion in 'General Distance Learning Discussions' started by carlosb, May 3, 2007.

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  1. carlosb

    carlosb New Member

  2. Vincey37

    Vincey37 New Member

    Nice find. Must have just changed, I checked and they were still a candidate a couple days ago. Right or wrong, there goes all credibility for ACBSP...
     
  3. friendorfoe

    friendorfoe Active Member

    I really don't see where all the hate for UofP comes from. They are a legit, RA school, who provide a service to thousands of students and professionals and are a household name institution.
     
  4. Pilot

    Pilot Member

    I think UOP aggressive marketing pop ups, online ads, etc......
    right or wrong gave them a very negative image.
    The image that most people have is all have you to do is pay a fee get enrolled and if you only complete assignments you'll be handed out a degree.
    I know that they started as a brick and mortar and that they have campuses a little bit everywere but now they are viewed as a low end online university.
    That's just the overwhelming response that I hear everytime online learning University etc is mentionned.
    Sorry but it is a pretty tainted reputation.........
    That's just the reality of how it is perceived.
     
  5. CargoJon

    CargoJon New Member

    Couldn't have said it any better myself. Having gone through the program, I can tell you the work is legit and challenging, and I earned my degree. However, with the mess that UOP has made of themselves, they could get admitted to the Ivy League and it still wouldn't help their image.
     
  6. makana793

    makana793 New Member

    It's kind of sad that UOP has such a negative image with some people. They are a "god send" for most of my friends in my military unit. I agree that probably some of the negative media hurt them a lot. Most individuals that I've encountered had nothing but positive things.
     
  7. friendorfoe

    friendorfoe Active Member

    Personally I haven't seen a bias against UofP in my working experience. So the bias is out of ignorance then if it exists at all.

    Other than academia, who has actually seen where UofP has been segregated out as not really being considered a reputable school? I have worked as a hiring manager, I work day in and day out with hiring managers and about the only time UofP is ever mentioned is when people are talking about their somewhat expensive tuition rate. Other than that, it would seem that they have a fairly acceptable reputation among the professionals that I have worked with.
     
  8. dlady

    dlady Active Member

    This could be a case study for the dangers of overzealous marketing and the need for public relations to make sure external communications remained aligned to a company’s long term goals.
     
  9. Pilot

    Pilot Member

    No offense but you come across as someone who is taking it personally for some reason.
    We all agree that we are talking about the perception and not the actual quality of education received.
    As far as perception goes it is an online university with "the most aggressive"
    Marketing technique out there.
    They use the same marketing techniques as online porn, sales of pills and diet miracles etc...
    Examples of techniques used are spam, pop ups, banner, bulk mail, flyers etc....
    Not very targeted!!!
    So the overwhelming impression is that as long as you breath and have some money you'll be accepted and therefore it is obviously perceived as a very low end online institution.
     
  10. airtorn

    airtorn Moderator

    Do a websearch for UOP and Intel.
     
  11. Scott Henley

    Scott Henley New Member

    ACBSP is not the top-tier business accrediting agency, so who cares? When UoP gets AACSB accreditation, then the world will surely be coming to an end.
     
  12. glimeber

    glimeber New Member

    Intereting....people grip, bitch, moan, complain, spew hate and vile at UOP because they lack the crediblity of such an accrediting organization but when it is received all of a sudden it is the accrediting organization. Funny how that works.
     
  13. Bruce

    Bruce Moderator

    Just what I was thinking.
     
  14. Vincey37

    Vincey37 New Member

    Only on a DL forum would someone actually question if discrimination against UoP in the workplace is real...
     
  15. PaulC

    PaulC Member

    The mission of UOP is not to supply academe with the next batch of tenured thinkers. If UOP was not accepted in the business community, they would have been out of business by now. As an FYI, they are pretty much the opposite of out of business. Results, even the one's we don't like, serve as the spokesmen of business.

    Annecdotal reference and conjecture are the twin committed bedfellows of DL forums: like happy drunks at a cocktail party.
     
  16. Scott Henley

    Scott Henley New Member

    I always thought it was the accrediting organisation.
     
  17. Vincey37

    Vincey37 New Member

    I suppose next you'll be telling me Kennedy Western is accepted in the business community. After all, they are hugely successful as well.
     
  18. PaulC

    PaulC Member

    No, what I would say is that there are many levels of scrutiny required before deciding academic credibility. Success is one of them. Another is independent review through a vetted process that has been accepted and normed by the academic industry and government overseers. KW would be asked to line up at the exit door before the first filter of independent review could even be applied. UOP passes this test, KW could not even sit for the exam.

    UOP is wildly successful in that which it does. It has a proven track record of support by a wide range industries, it has passed the exact same vetting process as every other regionally accredited institution, and has successfully passed the review process of yet another independent accreditation review board. Whether I like them or not, is moot.

    Opinions abound - the credentials and outcomes are unfazed.
     
  19. Denver

    Denver Member

    Does the average applicant know the difference? I would like to see a survey of how many MBA applicants know the difference between AACSB, ACBSP, IACBE and AMBA.
     
  20. Scott Henley

    Scott Henley New Member

    It would be interesting to see the results of such a survey. From my perspective, AACSB, EQUIS and AMBA are the "top-tier" of accreditation for business programs. They are all long established and held by the top schools throughout the world. Between the three accreditations, they ensure relative quality throughout the world and transferability of credentials between schools.

    That said, I am biased because I personally only recognise AACSB, EQUIS and AMBA. ACBSP and IACBE are relative unknowns among the good business schools, so some may think they are "wannabes" and their standards are definitely lower.
     

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