Aspen MS-IT and moving onto Australian Doctorate?

Discussion in 'General Distance Learning Discussions' started by dl_mba, Apr 23, 2007.

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  1. dl_mba

    dl_mba Member

  2. RFValve

    RFValve Well-Known Member

    Many Australian Universities have DETC accreditations themselves, why do you feel that they would deny you access to a DBA or DIT because of a DETC degree?

    The DIT at CSU looks really good, it is an IT practicioners program at the doctoral that is unique in Australai. However, I would consider the DBA instead of the DIT, the main reason is that it opens more doors as many schools want you teach not only IT but also general business courses.
     
  3. ebbwvale

    ebbwvale Member

    If it is recognised by the US DOE, then I cannot see a problem.
     
  4. SteveFoerster

    SteveFoerster Resident Gadfly Staff Member

    I think you should contact CSU's admissions people and make darn sure that's okay. Just because they have DETC doesn't mean they'll accept it. It may be the case, but it's a potentially dangerous assumption. More than one of us have witnessed ridiculous policies come out of academic bureaucracies, right?

    -=Steve=-
     
  5. dl_mba

    dl_mba Member

    I have contacted(called him yesterday) the DBA academic advisor about this and will call today again to find out if ASPEN MSIT is accepted for DBA/DIT admission.

    Will let know his reply.
     
  6. geoffs

    geoffs Member

    CSU in Canada

    Be sure to let us know, CSU just opened a campus in Ontario for their Education program...perhaps one day we can do the DBA there too!
     
  7. dl_mba

    dl_mba Member

    Its official !
    Got an email from the course coordinatior at CSU.

    MSIT from Aspen University degree is acceptable as part of their entry requirements for the DBA.

    There are 3 basic conditions for entry:
    1)candidate must hold a Master degree with a Credit grade average;
    2)candidate must have had at least 5 years experience in management within an organisations (profit or not-for-profit)
    3)there must be a principal supervisor within the faculty of Business (CSU) who is qualified and able to supervise the research topic identified by the student.

    If anybody is interested in getting on to Australian DBA, you still have 3 working days to get enrolled to MBA or MSIT at Aspen University for just $3K.
     
  8. Abner

    Abner Well-Known Member



    That on hell of a deal!!!!!! Great news!!!!!


    Abner :)
     
  9. sentinel

    sentinel New Member

    For less than $20 000.00 (Canadian Dollars) it is possible to earn both a masters degree and a doctorate degree. I have been seriously considering enrolling at Aspen University, and since Charles Sturt University offers a research-based DIT I can still pursue my interests in digital forensics and/or identity management.
     
  10. sentinel

    sentinel New Member

    <B>Correction:</B> The cost is actually approximately $30 000.00 (Canadian Dollars) for the doctorate degree from Charles Sturt University. I forgot about the additional 64 units; blame it on the early/late hour of the original reply that I posted.

    Out of curiosity, if Charles Sturt University (CSU) is only(?) DETC accredited and NorthCentral University (NCU) is regionally accredited, what is the advantage of earning a doctorate degree from CSU over NCU? I ask this question not in light of any NA v. RA debate but rather to better understand the perceived value of these two schools.
     
  11. ebbwvale

    ebbwvale Member

    Charles Sturt University is largely funded by the Australian Government and was set up by the Government of New South Wales (a state government in the Australian Federation). It is not a private university.

    Charles Sturt University is GAAP approved and DETC approved. I don't know why Australian universities do the DETC accreditation when they are already GAAP approved. I guess it is something they do for the US market where they seem to have considerable students.

    Regional accreditation is not really relevant outside the US, but perhaps very relevant if you are in the US. Mention RA offshore from the US and you are most likely to get a blank look. The question from this end is whether the university is recognised by the US DOE, if so,then it is GAAP approved. If it is GAAP approved, then all is well.

    It should have the same recognition as South African or UK universities. Qualitative differences between universities here are not as large as in the US, as there are very few private universities and they are rigidly controlled by government. I think that might apply to most Commonwealth Countries.

    Having said all the above, I don't profess to be an expert in this area.
     
  12. dl_mba

    dl_mba Member

    CSU is not accredited by DETC.

    3 Australian schools have received DETC accreditation.

    Deakin University http://www.deakin.edu.au
    Monash University http://www.monash.edu.au
    University of Southern Queensland http://www.usq.edu.au


    CSU accepts DETC Graduate degrees for their Doctoral admission.

    http://www.csu.edu.au/division/vcoffice/ovc/registrations.htm

    Charles Sturt University is statutory corporation established by the Charles Sturt University Act 1989 of the New South Wales Government.

    Charles Sturt University is registered, and may lawfully operate as a University in Australia and deliver courses of study inside and outside Australia , in accordance with section 16-15 of the Higher Education Support Act 2003 of the Commonwealth of Australia.
     
  13. sentinel

    sentinel New Member

    Thank you for the clarification.
     
  14. ebbwvale

    ebbwvale Member

    I stand corrected on CSU and DETC. As a graduate of CSU and from some discussions with academics, I had thought that they were headed that way for their US students. Obviously not, although others have done so.

    I have included an Australian Government Site that lists the colleges and universities in Australia for foreign students. You have to register on the site before searching it. I have not explored all the site, but it would appear that you would have to search any institution that appealed to you to find out if it has a distance learning program. A large number do so.

    Some will take students in post graduate programs, if they have extensive experience in the field of study, despite the lack of an undergraduate degree.

    http://studyinaustralia.gov.au/Sia/en/Home.htm
     
  15. Cyber

    Cyber New Member

    What happens if the DBA is by name only? As we all know, many of today's doctorates (example, NCU) contain very limited business courses or non at all. How would getting such a degree qualify you to teach business courses when such courses were not part of the program or your earned degree. I know this thread is old, but many of today's online RA DBAs are offered very shabbily course-wise hence, the need to talk about....
     
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  16. Some Australian universities got DETC accredited a few years ago. From talking to representatives at a university display I went to my understanding was that the idea was so that American students would feel more comfortable about them as they knew what DETC was. As has been said, CSU, and indeed all Australian universities, operate under legislation but some Americans were still a little worried about their status. Not all those universities continued with DETC.
     

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