UMUC

Discussion in 'General Distance Learning Discussions' started by Rick0768, Sep 4, 2001.

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  1. Rick0768

    Rick0768 New Member

    Does anyone have any helpful info about Univ of Maryland, University College? Quality of the program? Reputation of the school?

    Thanks.
     
  2. ahchem

    ahchem New Member

    Well it is an RA, state supported institution, so you shouldn't have any trouble getting others to accept it as legitimate.

    I have a friend who is attending UMUC's program in Swabish Gemund (Germany). According to her the program is not very difficult, and she is looking for another college to transfer to. Her opinion is of course only a single person so take it with a few grains of salt, and there are many different programs within UMUC.

    If the program looks good to you, give it a try. It isn't going to blow up in your reume.

    Regards,
    Jeff

    Does anyone have any helpful info about Univ of Maryland, University College? Quality of the program? Reputation of the school?

    Thanks.
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  3. What many people do not realize is that MUUC Europe and UMUC MD are completely differant administratively and academically. I know several people, inlucding myself, who were not impressed with UMUC MD's program. They do cash you check very quickly.

    A lot of it can be atributed to having Professor's who really do not want to do DL - it can be VERY time-consuming. And frankly, they are largely not current. I highly recommend ISIM. Got a 2nd MS there and propmtly was admitted to an regionally accredited grad school.

    Dave A



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    David Anderson
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  4. Byran Lee

    Byran Lee member

    The University of Maryland is a regionally accredited state university. As such, you can be damn sure that it has decent reputation, and general acceptance by employers and graduate schools worldwide.

    Like the DETC accredited ISIM, any US universities without RA would likely be scrutinized, one way or the other.

    My 2 cents tells me that one should be more careful in believing a poster's first post, especially when it's about stepping on RA school and promoting everything down under. Some will tell you that their DETC degrees have gotten them into grad school but you don't really know what other credentials they have.

    Regards,

    Byran
     
  5. DaveHayden

    DaveHayden New Member

    Wasn't David Anderson the Airborne Ranger on usenet who was looking for a BA in CS and got very defensive when several people pointed out the problems with ACCIS? I notice some more hat mail on SED from him to Steve Levicoff yesterday. Definately an opinion I would disregard.
     
  6. Almost right Dave.

    It has been said that a lie is halfway 'round the world while the truth is still getting it's boots on. [​IMG]

    I DID post about a BS in CS (I'm a Asst. Prof) on behalf of some of my students. If you define "Hate mail" as blowing holes in Levicoff's bullying - then I'm guilty.

    As for ISIM - can't say I ever got defensive - I've got a MA from a regionally accredited school.

    Don't hesitate to start more innudendo. [​IMG]

     
  7. Guest

    Guest Guest

    UMUC charges $301 per semester hour graduate credit for in-state residents and $494 per grad semester hour for out-of-state residents. You'd be better off finding a program that charges one flat rate per hour for all students or per class -- at $500 an hour (Cal State charges $500 per COURSE) that's $1500 per course at UMUC. Seems a tad steep to me. They don't quite seem to have grasped the premise behind distance learning [​IMG] and they're pricing themselves right out of the market.
     
  8. DaveHayden

    DaveHayden New Member

    I have never seen Steve Levicoff bully anyone. He may at times be blunt even rude but that is NOT bullying. Also the posts were about AICS (now ACCIS) not ISIM. Your previous posts in usenet definately gave the impression you were looking for yourself not a student. You mentioned no students and no degrees on your part. The only reason I mentioned it is that your posts now list degrees you seemingly did not have a few months ago. UMUC and ISIM are both reputable schools although the DETC accreditation at ISIM limits its utility. AICS/ACCIS is a school trying to distance itself from its own reputation. While the jusry is still out w/o RA backing it would be a last resort for most people.

    Dave
     
  9. Tom Head

    Tom Head New Member

    While I see nothing wrong with earning a DETC-accredited degree--particularly at the master's level--I second this. While ISIM is an excellent school (and I mention it in the same breath as Global and AMU when talking about "the best DETC-accredited schools"), UMUC's regional accreditation gives it a definite edge over ISIM in terms of utility. And, thanks to John and Rich, this can be empirically proven.


    Peace,

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    Tom Head
    www.tomhead.net

    co-author, Bears' Guide to the Best Education Degrees by Distance Learning (Ten Speed Press)
    co-author, Get Your IT Degree and Get Ahead (Osborne/McGraw-Hill)
     
  10. DaveHayden

    DaveHayden New Member

    Hi Tom

    I definately agree that ISIM has a very good reputation. With all the RA choices out there (UofMass, UMUC, NJIT, Excelsior, TESC, Lakeland College, etc.) I can't think of a good reason to chose a DETC school over a RA school. There is no upside that I can think of. Also with some of the questionable schools DETC has approved I see it as a true negitive.

    Best Regards
    Dave
     
  11. Tom Head

    Tom Head New Member

    I wouldn't see DETC accreditation itself as a negative by any means, since the DETC is approved by both the USDE and CHEA; I would certainly agree that it's no substitute for regional accreditation, though, and I would certainly not consider ISIM's utility to be superior to that of UMUC.

    But would I hypothetically do an M.Div. from Global University of the Assemblies of God, or an MFA from Atlantic University? Maybe, maybe not; I certainly wouldn't rule it out completely.


    Peace,

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    Tom Head
    www.tomhead.net

    co-author, Bears' Guide to the Best Education Degrees by Distance Learning (Ten Speed Press)
    co-author, Get Your IT Degree and Get Ahead (Osborne/McGraw-Hill)
     
  12. Alex

    Alex New Member

    One possible reason to select certain DETC schools over RA schools would be flexibility of scheduling of course assignments and exams. For example, Grantham allows you a year to finish a semester, so you can pace the courses (taken one at a time) as needed to fit your schedule.

    Many RA schools have individual correspondence courses with this kind of flexible scheduling, but such flexibility is rare for entire degree programs.

    Alex
     
  13. Dave,

    If you haven't seen Levicoff bully anyone, it's because you're head had been in the sand. When posters from a mental disability site BEG hinm to leave them alone and he gives his standard "it's the friggen' internet" speech it not something he can be proud of.

    I've only added ONE degree in the last year. That does not include additional industry-specific technical certifications

    Feel free to start some more innuendo. You really seem to enjoy it. [​IMG]




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  14. Tom Head

    Tom Head New Member

    I seem to remember reading that personal attacks are against the terms of service; my advice would be to lay off Steve Levicoff and stop encouraging people to spread innuendo (whatever that's supposed to mean).


    Peace,

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    Tom Head
    www.tomhead.net

    co-author, Bears' Guide to the Best Education Degrees by Distance Learning (Ten Speed Press)
    co-author, Get Your IT Degree and Get Ahead (Osborne/McGraw-Hill)
     
  15. Chip

    Chip Administrator



    Tom is, of course, correct. But I believe that both Daves are probably close to or over the line in this thread.

    While I may have had issues with Airborn Ranger, I also welcome his posting here, as long as he makes an effort to contribute meaningfully and avoids attacking others, including Steve Levicoff. And by the same token, Airborn Ranger, as a contributor to this forum, deserves to be treated with respect and to *not* be subject to attacks or innuendo, regardless of the truth or lack of it that might exist in the accusations.

    In short, if you have an issue with a stand on distance education, please argue the *point* without talking about the *person* or other issues that don't relate to DL in general or the topic in particular.

    Thanks!
     
  16. Chip,

    Thank you. In every case the other Dave has introduced the subject and made statements I have taken exception to. I am NOT attacking Levicoff when I call attention to his behavior in refuting a statement by the OTHER Dave. And this is behavior he openly discussed while both Chip and Tom were regulars of the alt.distance. So it isn't news to either one of you. And it bothers me that anyone would do such a thing. Call it my hot button.

    I am NOT attacking anyone when I defend myself against untrue statements. In fact, I am entitled to address these issues.

    My original post re: UMUC is valid and accurate.

    I just noticed a post on about.com distance ed re: http://www.universityofphoenixsucks.com/

    What's up with that?


     
  17. DaveHayden

    DaveHayden New Member

    Hi Chip

    First thanks for helping provide this forum. I appreciate it. I am confused by one statement.

    "...be treated with respect and to *not* be subject to attacks or innuendo, regardless of the truth or lack of it that might exist in the accusations."

    If something is true how can it be an innuendo? Anyway I certainly didn't mean to do anything near or over the line. My apologies.

    Best Regards
    Dave Hayden

    "Computers enable people to make mistakes faster than any other device with the possible exception of beer and hand guns."
     
  18. portb71

    portb71 New Member

    UMUC is not the Univ of Maryland

    It is important to note that the University of Maryland does not offer online courses. Univ of Maryland Univ College does. Two totally different schools.
     
  19. Orson

    Orson New Member

    Re: UMUC is not the Univ of Maryland: Are they lying?

    Hmmm. Two totally different schools...Yet their web site
    <http://www.umuc.edu/gen/about.html> states:

    "University of Maryland University College is one of 11 accredited degree-granting institutions in the University System of Maryland."

    Now, do you claim they are lying?
    Or do you somehow mean that by being a constitutent unit of the University of Maryland means it's not the University of Maryland?
    ...a strange construction, me thinks.

    --Orson
     
  20. portb71

    portb71 New Member

    Re: Re: UMUC is not the Univ of Maryland: Are they lying?

    No I was correct the first time. First, there is no longer a University of Maryland System. There IS, however, a University system of Maryland www.usmd.edu.

    Among its members are U of Md. Eastern shore, UMBC, UMUC, Frostburg State, Towson State, UMCP etc etc, each with its own sports teams and institutional identity.

    The flagship school is UMCP, which as of 1997 is the only of the 13 public Maryland undergraduate school that can be designated solely as the "University of Maryland".

    To verify, please see the UMCP website for more info on why it is perfectly acceptable to refer to UMCP as "The University of Maryland":

    The Name to Remember: University of Maryland
    In 1997, the Maryland General Assembly passed legislation allowing the state's flagship university in College Park to be known simply as the University of Maryland.

    http://www.inform.umd.edu/newsdesk/identityguide/

    UMUC is a separate institution within the USMD. UMD refers only to U of Md (College Park)

    This topic has been hashed out ad nauseum in another thread.
     

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