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    University Of Denver Masters Program does not Require GRE

    I am happy about this, but was not sure how often this occurs. Do other masters programs not require the GRE?

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    *Five and ten week courses.

    *No GRE or GMAT required.

    * Tuition: $359.00 per credit hour on-campus, $393.00 per credit hour on-line for the following programs

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    Question

    I don't like the fact that the "University College" (why give it a weird name?) seems to offer different degrees than the other schools in UD.

    It looks like every online degree is a Master of Applied Science rather than MS like the non online degrees. To me, this is a tell-tale sign that the quality and prestiege of these degrees are not the same as their bricks and mortar counterparts.

    I would go to a school that did not seperate the online degrees from the traditional ones. Just my two cents.

    If you don't mind those little quirks, its a decent price and a good selection of degrees. I don't like the MAS degree title though.
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    Originally posted by Splas
    I don't like the fact that the "University College" (why give it a weird name?) seems to offer different degrees than the other schools in UD.

    It looks like every online degree is a Master of Applied Science rather than MS like the non online degrees. To me, this is a tell-tale sign that the quality and prestiege of these degrees are not the same as their bricks and mortar counterparts.

    I would go to a school that did not seperate the online degrees from the traditional ones. Just my two cents.

    If you don't mind those little quirks, its a decent price and a good selection of degrees. I don't like the MAS degree title though.
    I'm a student with DU's University College, specifically the telecommunications program. I'll offer a few notes:

    DU's University College is the adult education arm of the University, and conducts B&M classes on the DU campus. It's what's called "extension" in other schools.

    Many of my online instructors also conduct face-to-face instruction. However, many are themselves products of DU's graduate programs - this is not good, in my view.

    The DU UC degree programs were developed under the supervision of advisory boards drawn from industry, not academia. As such, they are decidedly vocational in focus and approach. I have to say that, yes, this compromises rigor in some of the courses I've taken.

    All in all I'm satisfied with what I've gotten out of the program as the courses have helped me succeed professionally. However, I wouldn't say I'm much more than satisfied:

    -Course quality has been uneven.

    -Student peer technical qualifications are excellent; however, writing and critical thinking skills are often not (although I peer reviewed some excellent papers on European religious history and UK immigration policy in our mandatory writing course).

    -The faculty are all highly experienced telecommunications practioners, both in the technical domain, the business domain, and a few in the policy domain. However, on the whole I don't feel that the faculty are qualified to address larger issues of telecommunications policy and strategy with the highest levels of nuance and detail (certainly not at the level of telecom faculty at UC-Boulder or Univ. of Pittsburgh). AFAIK, only my program director holds a PhD.

    -Some of the capstone projects that pass muster for the MAS degree are absolutely atrocious, in my view - not even baccalaureate level work.

    As for the MAS title, it accurately reflects the rigor of the degree. The Master of Applied Science is awarded in Commonwealth countries (Canada, Australia, New Zealand) for practioner degrees that are less technically rigorous than full-fledged MS or MEng degrees (the DU telecom courses require no math higher than algebra/trig - these are used for RF link budgeting). I have to think that the MAS concept was borrowed from them.

    But, yeah, it's funky - often I feel that I'm studying technical material that's appropriate for the associate's degree level...but writing 15-20 page research papers about it. Hence "Master of Applied Science".

    If money were no object, I would definitely have enrolled in UC-Boulder's online telecom program instead - better faculty credentials, stronger integration with CU's law and business schools.

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    Do you have a link for the UC-Boulder program?

    The wireless networks Masters degree seems right up my ally though.

    Do you happen to have a blog or anything describing your school experience so far with the college?
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    Originally posted by firstmode4c
    Do you have a link for the UC-Boulder program?
    http://caete.colorado.edu/masters/default.aspx

    The wireless networks Masters degree seems right up my ally though.
    That major - and some of the required courses - is brand new. As you've surely read, the goal is to prepare students for both CWNP and NARTE certification. These are vocational certs, so I'd hope the program would do more than that.

    Do you happen to have a blog or anything describing your school experience so far with the college?
    PM me and I'll show you the skeletons.

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    A few points which the site inexplicably would not allow me to post yesterday:

    *** At least U of Denver's University College is part of the university--Maryland's UC is part of the U of M system but technically a separate "campus" or degree-granting institution.

    *** Precisely because the DL offerings are part of the B&M school, I suspect the M.A.S. and other odd degree titles are intended to be some protection against cannibalizing their B&M M.S. applicant pool.

    *** I actually think it's a BAD idea for DL schools not to require the GRE, GMAT or other appropriate pre-test prior to admission. It inevitably makes the DL program APPEAR less rigorous even when it is not, and it certainly attracts an applicant pool that on the whole will be less qualified than the test-taking pool--there will be stars in both groups, but the test-phobic group AS a group will be lower quality. It would be better for the program to require the testing and admit a wide range of scores (so that a "bad" score does not rule out admission based on other strong qualifications) rather than dilute the applicant pool by not requiring the tests.
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    So the Colorado degree can be done 100% online?

    I think I am really interested in the University College Degree. I have been going to more vocational technical schools anyways with my associates and bachelors, so I do not mind a Masters of APPLIED science at all.
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    *Keller GSoM - Master of Network and Communications Management (Enrolled)

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    Has anyone else considering or gone through this program before?
    *ITT Technical Institute - Associates of Applied Science in Information Technology: Computer Networking Systems
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    *Keller GSoM - Master of Network and Communications Management (Enrolled)

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    *MCP Windows XP (70-270), Windows Server 2003 (70-290)
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    Well, after looking around and around between MBA in Management Technology and Master in Telecommunication. I think that University of Denver fits my needs. I started off the program at George Mason University (traditional college) in Master of Science in Telecommunications. I don't know about others, but behonest the program is not good at all. Maybe the name sounds better than University of Denver's Master of Applied Science in Telecommunication. More than half of the Professors in the program don't have P.hD. In fact, some of them just graduated from George Mason University last year for their Master degree. After taking two classes, I am not interested into the program at all. Most of the lecture is about their experience. I know most of us want to learn the fundamentals of the subject; not their experience. Obviously, most of us have lot of experience in Networking field, and don't really need to know about their at all.

    Before, making my move. I do little more research!!Daniel

    Luechtefeld,

    How many classes for full-time student? Also, does proctored exam require? I couldn't find these information online.

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    I would also be interested in that information as well.

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    *Keller GSoM - Master of Network and Communications Management (Enrolled)

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    *MCP Windows XP (70-270), Windows Server 2003 (70-290)
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    Well, I found out some of the information. Full-time graduate student requires to take at least 8 credit hours per term; which is about 3 courses. As for the proctored exam does not indicate; therefore, I believe it is depends on each course. Texas A&M University's online Master Programs don't require proctored exam; all can be done online. I am not sure if University of Denver follows the same model or not.
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    Wow, 3 Masters courses at one time with a full time job seems pretty killer. I think I will stick to 1 or 2 at a time. 4 regular classes at bachelors level is streching me thing enough!

    Are any of you Telecommunications guys going for any Certifications such as Cisco, Nortel, NARTE, BICSI, Certified Wireless Network Administrator (Wireless#, CWNP, etc), NACSE, ETC?
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    Originally posted by firstmode4c
    Wow, 3 Masters courses at one time with a full time job seems pretty killer. I think I will stick to 1 or 2 at a time. 4 regular classes at bachelors level is streching me thing enough!

    Are any of you Telecommunications guys going for any Certifications such as Cisco, Nortel, NARTE, BICSI, Certified Wireless Network Administrator (Wireless#, CWNP, etc), NACSE, ETC?
    Well, I am interested in Telecommunications since I was in high school; however, I did not continue to go into the field. I joined the Marine Corps right after that. Then just left active duty in August 2006; therefore, I am starting to work on those certification. I am seeking full-time status because I want to receive full benefit from MGI Bill. It is tough to take 3 classes at the time with a full-time job; but, you take a look again. It seems only two classes because quarterly credit is equal to 0.75 semester credit. Therefore, theree classes is equaled to two classes in semester format.

    If the name of the school doesn't matter to me; then I should go to Aspen University's Master of Science in Telecommunications. It requires 36 hours, which 9 electives hours can be replaced with MCSE (Microsoft Certified System Engineer ). And only $250.00 per semester. BTW, Aspen University is national accredited by DETC.
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    I did not see a telecommunications degree at Aspen University:

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    *Mt. Sierra College - Bachelors of Science in Telecommunications Technology
    *Keller GSoM - Master of Network and Communications Management (Enrolled)

    *Microsoft Certified Desktop Support Technician MCDST
    *MCP Windows XP (70-270), Windows Server 2003 (70-290)
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    Oopss. Typo. They have Master of Science in Information Technology ; which MCSE is awarded 9 college credits toward the degree itself.

    Well, I am working on dual degree, so I can get full benefit from the VA. The Aspen University required one class for every 10 weeks is considered as full-time student; therefore, one class at Aspen would help me to receive full benefit from the VA. And University of Denver for Master of Applied Science in Telecommunication Management helps me later, but I'll take it slowly.

    This is what I am doing:

    Aspen University - Master of Science in Information Technology
    University of Denver - Master of Applied Science in Telecommunication Management

    later on for Ph.D at NCU? don't know yet, but still on the plan; Besides, I am only 23 ....so, don't need to rush.
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    Are you doing both at one time? if so you are crazy and talented!

    I am not sure if I should go on to a masters program after my bachelors or get a bachelors in Electrical Engineering Technology. I know an electronics Engineering technology or Electrical Engineering technology bachelors degree would be valuable in Telecommunications also.

    I am just not sure if I am ready to write a 60 page thesis yet, but maybe I would be at the end of my 2 years masters program.
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    *ETA Certified Network Systems Technician
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