Argosy Now Offering On-line Programs

Discussion in 'General Distance Learning Discussions' started by Dr Rene, Jul 7, 2006.

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  1. Dr Rene

    Dr Rene Member

    Argosy Now Offering On-line Programs. On-line programs (bachelor, master, doctorate) will be managed by the Argosy Chicago Campus.

    http://online.argosyu.edu/

    Website shows two required residencies, though.
     
  2. SteveFoerster

    SteveFoerster Resident Gadfly Staff Member

    Let's see: $750 per credit-hour times 60 credit-hours equals $45,000. That's about the same as GW's EdD. Granted, GW's doctoral programs aren't online and not everyone lives in the D.C. area. But at that price is there any state university that wouldn't compare favorably to what Argosy is offering? Even for those who need distance learning, at that price I'd rather have an EdD from the University of Nebraska at Lincoln or even a doctorate from Nova Southeastern or UMUC.

    -=Steve=-
     
  3. Dr Rene

    Dr Rene Member

    Steve,

    I agree with everything you say concering the EdD degree. I am wondering about the on-line DBA or PhD in Business Administration.

    Of course, in my opinion, if/when Northcentral becomes ACBSP accredited, that will raise the bar on on-line (and even short residency) business doctoral programs. I don't believe there is a business accredited on-line doctorate program in business, as far as I know.

    Rene Rendon
     
  4. BinkWile

    BinkWile New Member

    I'm a big fan of Argosy, but $750 a credit!! I would rather go to a state school like UMUC and pay a lot less (assuming you have the in state residency).
     
  5. SteveFoerster

    SteveFoerster Resident Gadfly Staff Member

    UMUC isn't cheaper than Argosy, actually, even if you live in Maryland. They're both about $45,000. A nearby brick and mortar state school program, however, ought to be a lot less. One of the places I'm considering is George Mason University, and since I'm in state, the total there would be half that.

    -=Steve=-
     
  6. BinkWile

    BinkWile New Member

    I'll concede to that. Maryland state schools in general are outrageously expensive. I just picked the first state university on my mind. My point is that for the money, you could get more bang for your buck somewhere else.
     
  7. RFValve

    RFValve Well-Known Member

    Although ACBSP accreditation has some value. The trend seems to be towards AACSB accreditation. Some of the state schools like Maryland might be able to achieve this accreditation or some of the ones with more precense like NOVA.

    If teaching is the ultimate goal, the AACSB accreditation must be on top of the things to look at when deciding the school to attend.
     
  8. Dr Rene

    Dr Rene Member

    I totally agree. But for RA non-traditional, distant-learning schools, AACSB may not be an achieveable accreditation, in my opinion. I'm thinking that Nova may be the only school that has a non-traditional, distant learning based business doctorate that could achieve AACSB accreditation, if they choose to go that route.

    The next best accrediation would be ACBSP, I believe. That is better than nothing. I believe non-traditional schools that focus on distant learning and on-line programs in business administration need some sort of credential to set them apart from the ever growing pool of non-traditional, distant learning-based regionally accredited PhD and DBA programs, to counter the perception of lack of academic rigor in those programs, as perceived by those in academia. I believe professional business accreditation, recognized by the CHEA, such as ACBSP, is a step toward the perception of academic rigor. Of course--all of this is just my opinion.
     
  9. w_parker

    w_parker New Member

    While I agree that professional accrediting is a way to have some quality control in a program, perhaps more so in the DL world, I am not sure that many people would really know the difference. As for more rigor from an AACSB or ACPSB school, my undergrad school was a small college and RA/IACBE, the school I am going through now for an MBA is RA/AACSB and I have seen no real discernable difference as far as the rigor of the courses, e.g. as far as effort put forth in order to learn the material and pass the class. I am not sure many people would really know or believe that a school that is AACSB or ACPSB was a more academically rigorous school, especially as your transcripts will not say "AACSB". If you are looking to teach, then any DL degree seems to be a hindrance anyway, and I would go to a B&M AACSB school. Here in Hawaii, we have Hawaii Pacific University, which is a small private school, and not professionally accredited, and U of Hawaii, which is AACSB, but HPU is considered the business college to attend. I will be transferring into either UH or HPU when I return from Iraq in order to finish my MBA, fortunately both will accept all of my transfer credits.

    Wiiliam Parker
     
  10. Dr Rene

    Dr Rene Member

    I agree that many people would not really know the difference between professional business accreditation (like AACSB or ACBSP), and that actual differences in academic rigor between accredited schools and non-accredited schools may or may not exist.

    However, it is the percpetion of academic rigor in the eyes of the world of academia that I am focusing my discussion. I believe this definitely applies to PhD/DBA students from RA non-traditional distance learning programs that are pursuing an academic career.

    In my experience, when interviewing for a teaching position at a college or university, and you are holding an RA non-traditional distant learning business doctorate degree, one of the first questions asked by the search committee is about professional accreditation--they see it as a credential relating to academic rigor. This will be even more important as more total on-line business doctorate programs come into the market, I believe.

    Of course, if you are pursuing these degrees for advancement in industry (non-academia), then professional accrediation (AACSB or ACBSP) really doesn't mean much, depending on the level of sophistication of the hiring HR departements, in my opinion.
     
  11. romaric

    romaric New Member

    This price of $750 per credit-hour is to much for me. I would like to have more information on how this price was decided. I know that technology is very expensive but!!!.
     
  12. RFValve

    RFValve Well-Known Member

    In business schools, the AACSB accreditation seems to be the norm when applying for teaching jobs. Most schools look for this accreditation so it is of real value when applying for a faculty job.

    Some foreign DBAs and PhDs offer this accreditation. I think that the AACSB accreditation is a good way of justifying going overseas for a degree.
     

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