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    Doctorate without a dissertation

    I am interested in exploring any programs that lead to a doctorate in Business or in Education that do not require a dissertation. I would prefer this to be an accredited school or, in the case of non US schools, one that is accepted as equivalent. An example I have found of such a program is:

    Colorado Technical University : http://www.ctucoloradosprings.com/de...octoral/dm.asp

    For those who are about to respond to this post expressing the opinion that a doctorate without a dissertation is not really a doctorate please do not. I respect your personal opinion but would prefer to explore the facts.

    The purpose of this post is to seek help in my research since I cannot possibly look at every school offering a doctorate program myself. It may also prove to be beneficial to others as a body of data for their research.

    Thanks for your assistance.
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    Sorry but I forgot to specify that the search is for distance education programs. Short residencies are not a problem.
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    Re: Doctorate without a dissertation

    Originally posted by turtle
    I am interested in exploring any programs that lead to a doctorate in Business or in Education that do not require a dissertation. I would prefer this to be an accredited school or, in the case of non US schools, one that is accepted as equivalent. An example I have found of such a program is:

    Colorado Technical University : http://www.ctucoloradosprings.com/de...octoral/dm.asp

    For those who are about to respond to this post expressing the opinion that a doctorate without a dissertation is not really a doctorate please do not. I respect your personal opinion but would prefer to explore the facts.

    The purpose of this post is to seek help in my research since I cannot possibly look at every school offering a doctorate program myself. It may also prove to be beneficial to others as a body of data for their research.

    Thanks for your assistance.
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    Doctorate degree that do not require a dissertation are not PhD's (ofcourse). The are usually DBA's, DM's, etc. and require a final project that difficult.

    As I understand it - PhD's require an orginal body of work. The other doctoral degrees require a practical application of a theory.

    You can look at Nova or UoP or Regent U or Columbia Southern University (if an NA degree works).

    There are a lot of schools that offer a Doctor of Education (EdD ). That that require a disseration?

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    Originally posted by Randell1234
    Doctorate degree that do not require a dissertation are not PhD's (ofcourse). The are usually DBA's, DM's, etc. and require a final project that difficult.
    DBAs require a dissertation in general. Some Australian Schools have some degrees that can be completed by using an industry project.
    The Doctor of Technology at Deaking University is one of those programs that can be completed without a dissertation. However, the price is the "ridiculous" range.

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    Originally posted by RFValve


    DBAs require a dissertation in general. Some Australian Schools have some degrees that can be completed by using an industry project.
    The Doctor of Technology at Deaking University is one of those programs that can be completed without a dissertation. However, the price is the "ridiculous" range.
    Here the link to the program, notice that it requires a "research project" and not a dissertation.


    http://www.deakin.edu.au/courses/sea...r_offered=2006

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    I believe that any doctoral degree from a legitimately-accredited school will require a very significant research assignment, as part of the program. It may be called a dissertation, a thesis, a final project, a research project, or whatever. But, it's going to be there.
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    Even though I also prefer doctoral programs with disseration requirements, there are in fact, a number of Australian U's doing this. One that is probably quite affordable is the DBA program at Southern Cross University - see www.scu.edu.au

    However, as far as I know, other than being GAAP, they are neither accredited by AACSB, EQUIS(Euro), or the Association of MBA in UK... so it's just a "pure DBA" ... Check it out if you are okay with this.

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    Originally posted by Bruce
    I believe that any doctoral degree from a legitimately-accredited school will require a very significant research assignment, as part of the program. It may be called a dissertation, a thesis, a final project, a research project, or whatever. But, it's going to be there.
    I think he may be asking whether the business schools have yet bothered to create a professional doctorate ... 90 sem hrs of straight coursework, often leading to professional licensure, similar to a JD or MD. I'm unaware of the existence of such a beast.
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    Re: Doctorate without a dissertation

    Originally posted by turtle
    I am interested in exploring any programs that lead to a doctorate in Business or in Education that do not require a dissertation. I would prefer this to be an accredited school or, in the case of non US schools, one that is accepted as equivalent. An example I have found of such a program is:

    Colorado Technical University : http://www.ctucoloradosprings.com/de...octoral/dm.asp

    For those who are about to respond to this post expressing the opinion that a doctorate without a dissertation is not really a doctorate please do not. I respect your personal opinion but would prefer to explore the facts.

    The purpose of this post is to seek help in my research since I cannot possibly look at every school offering a doctorate program myself. It may also prove to be beneficial to others as a body of data for their research.

    Thanks for your assistance.

    Turtle - I know this isn't much help, but the CTU program is the only Doctorate level program in the US that I know about that allows for completion without a dissertation. CTU does require 6 major research projects to be completed (in addition to the coursework) for the DM or DCS.
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    Re: Re: Doctorate without a dissertation

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    Turtle - I know this isn't much help, but the CTU program is the only Doctorate level program in the US that I know about that allows for completion without a dissertation. CTU does require 6 major research projects to be completed (in addition to the coursework) for the DM or DCS.
    The DM at CTU actually requires 12 Research and Writing courses, each for three hours credit, for 36 hours total, and the twelve Research and Writing courses each require a paper of publishable quality. So, it sounds like the 36 credits of Research and Writing would be the equivalent effort of a dissertation, albeit broken up into twelve shorter pieces.
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    Re: Re: Re: Doctorate without a dissertation

    Originally posted by Ted Heiks
    The DM at CTU actually requires 12 Research and Writing courses, each for three hours credit, for 36 hours total, and the twelve Research and Writing courses each require a paper of publishable quality. So, it sounds like the 36 credits of Research and Writing would be the equivalent effort of a dissertation, albeit broken up into twelve shorter pieces.
    You are correct. The courses result in publishable projects....according the people at CTU that I talked with, these publishable projects require just as much work than a dissertaion would.
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    Edith Cowan has one in Education

    Edith Cowan University in Perth, Australia has a practitioners' Doctor of Education that requires projects but not a dissertation/thesis.

    http://www.ecu.edu.au/ses/educ/courses/Eddoc.html

    They're full up for 2006, though.

    They also seem to have practitioners' degrees called Doctor of Management, Doctor of Inforamtion Technology and Doctor of Comtemporary Arts. Interesting.

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    Re: Re: Doctorate without a dissertation

    Originally posted by eric.brown

    Turtle - I know this isn't much help, but the CTU program is the only Doctorate level program in the US that I know about that allows for completion without a dissertation.
    Some programs will let you graduate if you have 3 published peer-reviewed articles in lieu of a dissertation. However, that typically takes much longer than doing a dissertation! Programs that require only a "research project" might sound easier, but might end up requiring more work as well.
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    Re: Re: Re: Doctorate without a dissertation

    Originally posted by edowave
    Some programs will let you graduate if you have 3 published peer-reviewed articles in lieu of a dissertation.
    Which ones? Now I'm curious.

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    Re: Re: Re: Doctorate without a dissertation

    Originally posted by edowave


    Some programs will let you graduate if you have 3 published peer-reviewed articles in lieu of a dissertation.
    This has become more common in traditional doctoral programs. Also, in master's programs as well. It is usually combined as chapters, but the chapters are papers sent off for review. Generally its: Overall Introduction, Various chapters of research projects, Overall Conclusion. I will have four projects at the end of this summer. One is being submitted to a journal for review this week, the others will be sent out when they are written. My hope is to get the first paper in press by the time I defend. That way my committee will have little reason to comment on it since its been through peer-review. My master's thesis was like this. It ended up with two published papers and a third in review right now. With the constant pressure to publish, publish, publish in academia, this seems like a suitable approach to a dissertation. I don't know why this would take longer if you would just submit it as a dissertation and then eventually (if passed through review) the papers would get published. However, if had to wait to get my master's until after the papers were published, then yes it would have been longer. I graduated in 2004 and the third paper has not been published yet; rejected twice due to some statistics issues.
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