have NA master's...want RA master's

Hello Everyone,

I currently have an MBA/Public Adminstration degree from Columbia Southern University. I've thought about pursuing a doctorate, but decided it would be best to pursue a second master's degree. I'd like to have the opportunity to teach CJ and business management/leadership. So, this is what I'm looking for:

* Interested in a master's in management and leadership

* Maximum transfer credit to the second master's program

* Affordable ($200-$300 per credit unit)

So far, I'm leaning towards American Military University. They are RA and NA, allow up to 15 transfer credits into their graduate program and have the master's in management with a concentration in leadership.

I've also got an e-mail into Troy University and waiting for a reply. Troy is part of the CHEA/HETA agreement.

Honestly, I'm looking for the shortest path possible. I've been online with college for the last six years and don't want to be at it for another 2 years. Again, so far, American Military University seems to have all the qualities I'm looking for.

 

That will qualify you to teach management and leadership courses in college. You will need 18 graduate level credits in the field that you want to teach in order to teach in that field. Just FYI

 

Seems to me you've already put yourself in a hole with a Columbia Southern University MBA/(MPA ?) - described by Bear as having a no-wonderful past. Similarly, according to Bear, American Military University poses as a "public University" and is only accredited by DETC.
It is not enough to merely have two "legal" degrees. In competing with other candidates for JC teaching positions, the reputation of the schools is also important. I would throw a resume/CV containing both Columbia Pacific and American Military "Universities" directly in the trash because I'd assume the candidate was trying to game the system - especially if the 2nd Master's was a quickie. You need something to offset Columbia Pacific. Troy State University would be good.

 

American Military University is now regionally accredited.

Is American Public University (or whatever it's called) also RA?

 

American Military University (AMU) falls under the American Public University System (APUS). It is all NA and RA.

 

Cameron University www.cameron.edu offers an MBA in Entrepreneurship for $270/hr. and they are accredfited by NCA.

 

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American Military University is accredited by NCA.
Who said anything about Columbia Pacific?

 

Were you still thinking about Northecentral University www.ncu.edu for your PhD?

 

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Dad nab it - anther typo ! I meant Columbia Southern...

 

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Your problem goes much deeper than typos. You simply don't think before you hit the send button. And then you make all kinds of Freudian slips.

 

Aristotle said the ability to detect irony is one of the surest signs of intelligence...

 

jag........I think you've already found your solution for the quickest route. If you can transfer 15 cr/hrs from a NA masters program into a RA masters program, then you've found the goose that lays the golden egg.........don't second guess it, do it. I don't know of any RA program otherwise that accepts more than 9 cr/hrs and even then only from a RA to RA.

As for teaching in CJ, you need 18 graduate hours, neither program will give you what you need.

You can supplement your degrees with 18 loose hours, though not likely to land a teaching gig. Take Troy State's 10 class MSCJ......which is a good one, but still 2 years of work and about $10,000. Or you could try FHSU (Fort Hayes State University) http://www.fhsu.edu/mls/conc/index.shtml Master of Liberal Studies with a concentration in Criminal Justice. This is good in two ways and bad in one.

The Good:
Many schools consider Criminal Justice to be a Liberal Arts field if not a Humanities. So it would be keeping within that arena of thought.

Also it's really, really, really inexpensive. Like around $5,000 or so and of course RA.

The Bad:

It's not an MSCJ and you will compete with an MSCJ for a teaching gig. Your work experience combined with MBA and Management degree may offset this to make you the better candidate for a niche they are trying to fill, Criminal Justice as an academic discipline is changing, but that's going to be a tough sell on a big MAYBE.

My advice, if you must have an RA MBA check out NCU (Northcentral University) which will accept 9 credit hours in transfer, last time I checked and you can take 18 credit hours towards an RA MBA with a concentration in Criminal Justice

--OR--

Check out Amberton University online Master of Science in Managerial Science (MSM) for about $6,000 from a great school and then Troy University MSCJ for $10,000

Either way, you're talking about adding 2 (two) Masters degrees to your list if you are really serious about teaching Criminal Justice. If you want to teach "management" then the MSM would suffice.

 

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Let me first address the clear fact that I have no shame whatsoever in attending and being a graduate of CSU and by far it has not put me in a "hole."

Looking back, I have no regrets and would traveled the same path. I'm fortunate enough to have been on both sides of the fence, studying at both RA and NA schools. I would just like to finish an RA master's instead of pursuing a doctorate.

I'll have to agree with Ted's comments regarding "your problem goes much deeper than typos." I have found your responses don't provide much value. You're lack of understanding about distance education and you inability to think and research accurately before hitting the "send" button really shines through.

It's not about a "quickie" degree. I'm interested in maximizing graduate level transfer credits to pursue a second master's degree. I understand there are some limitiations in the NA degree arena, hence the reason for the pursuit of the second RA master's. I would like to teach online classes and have no interest in teaching at the JC/college/university bricks & mortar classroom setting.

 

have Dubious NA master's...want RA master's

Regrettably then, you haven't learned much about how DETC degrees are regarded in the real world.

Kneeslapper ! I understand DL and its limitiations very well. You, on the other hand, consistently show in your postings a juvenile, amusing, and ill-educated enthusiasm for NA and DTEC. You ought to get around the real world some more - where Columbia Southern University provokes mostly laughter.

Gimme a break. You want a quickie 2nd Master's to pyramid over your dubious first Master's. That's the unvarnished truth - Your real motives shine right through.

 

Jamie, lets get back to your orginal issue. I too am a graduate of CSU and would not change a thing. We spoke on the CSU blog many times. I am taking my last class at Northcentral and will graduate with an RA MBA with specialization in criminal justice (18 credits necessary to teach). It's a good program and offers about a 40% tution grant for law enforcement making it $285.00 per credit hour. You owe yourself a look see. Downside is only 6 credits transfer.
Also, take a look at University of Wisconsin - Platteville. They transfer a max of five courses into their 10 course masters in criminal justice program. It is a bit more expensive but perhaps only 5 classes to complete at a state university.

http://www.uwplatt.edu/disted/degrees/cj/index.html

Good luck and stay safe!!!!

 

I wonder if that statement is actionable by APU?

By putting universities in quotations you seem to imply that you believe that neither is truly a university in the generally accepted use of the word.

Herein lies my problem with so many posts which attempt to state the validity/marketability/utility of different programs. Publicly stated falsehoods do not help anyone.

If we as a group believe that RA is the generally accepted standard of minimum quality when selecting a college, then APU/AMU has met that requirement.

Toss the resume if you believe that all students from XYZ University are sub-standard; but take a minute to make sure you don't just assume a school is not RA simply because they used to be not-RA.

 

Now that American Military University is RA, it is probably the most inexpensive DL Masters degree in the marketplace. Additionally, since they will accept 15 graduate level credits from Columbia (if I read your previous post correctly), then you should jump at the opportunity.

 

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Mannnnn give the guy a break. He is seeking information on how to obtain a Masters degree. Help him instead of belittling him!!!

My .02

 

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jagmct1, I would give AMU a try. I have only heard positive things about them. They are both NA and RA. Their tuition is reasonable, and there are payment options.

I believe within 10 years 100% distance degree institutions will be equally excepted as tradtional universities continue to offer degrees 100% on line. The entry of RA institutions into the distance business will also lend greater credibility to NA institutions. The arguement will be, if distance education is so bad, why are you doing it?

 

Hello Jagmct1,

The best bang for the buck of the RA institutions is Amberton University in Texas. At $200 per hour you can't beat the tuition. The only drawback is they do not offer tuition assistance. However this is an excellent alternative.

http://www.amberton.edu/