$363 million average pay for top hedge

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  1. AGS

    AGS New Member

    $363M is average pay for top hedge fund managers By Adam Shell, USA TODAY
    Fri May 26, 7:21 AM ET



    James Simons, a mathematician turned money manager who prefers hiring Ph.D.s over MBAs, inched out oil tycoon T. Boone Pickens Jr. as the world's best-paid hedge fund manager in 2005, collecting an estimated $1.5 billion, according to rankings released today by Institutional Investor's Alpha magazine.

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    In rising to the top of what amounts to a who's who list of the secretive hedge fund world, Simons, of Renaissance Technologies, unseated 2004's top earner and first-ever billion-dollar man, Edward Lampert of ESL Investments, who is best known for buying Kmart and masterminding the blockbuster deal to buy Sears. Lampert's earnings dipped to an estimated $425 million last year, down from $1.0 billion in 2004.


    "These are staggering numbers," said Alpha editor Michael Peltz in announcing its fifth-annual list of Top 25 earners. "It took $130 million to make the list."


    Pickens also topped $1 billion, earning an estimated $1.4 billion. The average pay of the 26 (there was a tie for 25th place) on the list was $363 million, up 45% from $251 million in 2004.


    Other big-name managers with big-time reputations in the top 10 included: financier George Soros, who was named "the man who broke the Bank of England" in 1992 after a winning bet against the British pound netted him more than $1 billion; Steven Cohen of SAC Capital Advisors, whom BusinessWeek called "the most powerful trader on Wall Street you've never heard of" in a July 2003 cover story; and legendary trader Paul Tudor Jones II. "These top earners are the best of the best, the real superstars," says Ryan Pearson, senior vice president at hedge fund consultancy Greenwich-Van Advisors.


    The surge in pay comes amid an explosive growth in the industry, which now has roughly 8,000 funds and $1.2 trillion in assets. A lucrative business model for hedge fund managers, which, on average, entitles them to 2% of assets under management and 20% of the profit, makes these large paydays possible, Peltz says. A $10 billion fund would earn $200 million from the 2% management fee alone. Super-successful managers charge even more. Simons, the No. 1 earner last year, charges a 5% management fee and 44% of profits, Alpha's Peltz says.


    Simons, whose firm, Peltz quips, has enough "rocket scientists to run their own space program," makes its money trading "often and frequently" with the help of computers, trying to capture small price movements. Pickens profited from the boom in energy prices.


    The managers didn't just line their own pockets. "I suspect they have made more money for their clients than themselves," says Charles Davidson, hedge fund director at Standard & Poor's.



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  2. Daniel Luechtefeld

    Daniel Luechtefeld New Member

    I'm willing to bet that not one of those 26 has a DL-based PhD.
     
  3. Randell1234

    Randell1234 Moderator

    Re: Re: $363 million average pay for top hedge

    I would bet you are right. To be a CEO making $300M, you would need to have experience. Since DL PhD's are pretty new, I am sure you are right.

    The CEO of the company I work for has a BA in Humanities...go figure-
     
  4. finguy

    finguy New Member

    Making the big bucks in the asset management world isn't necessarily about having the most advanced degrees, DL or not. There are many other factors that greatly affect short term and long term earnings power.

    The ability to make prudent yet nearly instantaneous investment decisions is key to long term success in the HF world. The skills required to make it to the top tier of success are available to anyone willing to work hard enough for it. Unfortunately for us DL degree people, there is a lot of social and professional branding required to reach the top tier (as a hedge fund manager.) That branding issue is something I deal with every day.
     
  5. 4Q

    4Q New Member

    Re: Re: Re: $363 million average pay for top hedge

    My wing commander's BA in Music has enabled him to lead 3,000 folks. He's quite effective.
     
  6. jtaee1920

    jtaee1920 New Member

    Re: Re: Re: Re: $363 million average pay for top hedge

    Without ever meeting the guy (or knowing who he is), I suspect your wing commander's experience, leadership ability, and connections have enabled him to lead 3,000 folks.

    The BA may have helped him get a commission, but he had to earn the rest.

    The same applies to top earners in the corporate world. Education is just a small piece of the puzzle.
     

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