Any Update on DETC's DBA ?

RA PhD of NCU/TUI is good but too expensive to me!

Do you have any information on DETC's DBA ?

Thank a lot.

 

DETC is not authorized to accredit Doctoral level; only Associate, Certificate, Bachelor and Master.

TUI is cheap than any other schools.

Try Nova Southeastern University.
http://www.nova.edu/cwis/disted/dba.html

 

A few select schools will be participating in the DETC pilot Doctorate of Business Administration (DBA) accredited degree program. I know one of them to be Columbia Southern University and it should be available sometime this year (2006).

 

Thank jagmct1, but I cannot find any information on CSU's website about DBA. Do you, or anyone, know how to find others DETC's pilot Doctorate from other university, because I cannot find such pilot Doctorate on DETC's website.

Whereas TEKMAN's NSU, NSU's Doctorate is expensive than that of TUI and NCU. TUI's is also expensive than that of NCU, as TUI's price of $22,000 don't include the cost on writing thesis for $6,000 per yr and you have up to 3 yrs to writing your thesis (3 x $6,000 = $18,000)

For TUI, courseworks $22,000 + thesis $6,000 to $18,000
= $28,000 to 40,000
> $26,xxx of NCU

Nevertheless, I can only afford around or less than $10,000 for DETC's pilot Doctorate.

Do anyone know whether American Heritage University's DBA is included in DETC's pilot Doctorate?

Thank a lot.

 

Aside from the DETC doctorate program pilot idea, you may want to look into one of the South African doctoral programs.

 

As my Australia's master degree is coursework only, do you think that UNISA would accept me to study at Doctorate level? Or, is there any other alternative?

 

I received some info on CSU's update of potential interest about a month ago, however, i do not think one will hear of any DETC pilot updates until their next meeting which should be coming up in early June.
Should this be given a go, we may then see those within the pilot program to reflect info on their respective sites.

I hope to see the success of the DETC DBA pilot program to begin.

Jonathan

 

And again, why not some of the Australian schools? Won't they take you in with a coursework only masters?
UNISA shouldn't have a problem taking you in. They might just make you do some extra work if you did not meet one of their requirements. Try UNIZUL.

 

American Heritage University is not accredited by the DETC, so they cannot be included in the DETC doctoral pilot.

In fact, AHU does not appear to be accredited by any agency approved by the DoE or CHEA. They appear to be unaccredited (a mill?)

 

Hello Roman,

Thank you for your opinion refering Unisa.

What I take coursework master only (Master in Practising Accounting, Monash Universtiy)? It is because my first degree is in Social Science. And, my ass. degree equivlant is Applied Science (Physics). That means I never study business before going to related graduate school so I may not be accepted to related Doctoral program directly.

Why not some of the Australian schools? All Australian doctoral degree are expensive when comparing to Unisa.

Due to limited financial resources, Unisa's Doctorate or DETC's DBA from US seem to be suitable to me.

Anthony

 

Anthony,

Are you assuming that DETC doctoral programs will be inexpensive, or do you have a source for that information?

I've not heard anything either way, but judging from the price of DETC master's degrees (very few of which are below $10K anymore) and the price of other distance only doctorate, I'd say that a DETC doctorate below $10K is wishful thinking.

Do you know something that I don't?

 

RobbCD,

I have no source about DETC's doctorate, so I post here for such information.

I really assume that DETC's doctoral programs will be inexpensive when comparing to RA's one. The reason is that when comparing to RA's master, DETC's master is cheaper. For example, the master from NCU (RA) is around $14,xxx, while the master from APUS (DETC) is about $9,xxx. (Of course, you can have find some counter example(s).) Hence, it can be considered to apply to comparing doctoral programs between RA's and DETC's also.

At the present moment, no solid information about DETC's doctoral programs and its price appears, but I will consider such DETC's doctorate for less than $13,000. Otherwise, I will looking for Unisa's one.

Anthony

 

In fact, I prefer Unisa to any others DL provider due to its lowest school fee. Hopefully, Unisa will not turn down a master degree (by coursework's only) to study doctorate. However, the major problem is so many peoples' negative experience on dealing with Unisa. And, I am no more living in north America since last year, so I cannot use the services from "http://www.iaci-canada.com" for application to Unisa. Nevertheless, I will try to apply Unisa.

I hope that there is at last some Canadian university provide DL Business doctorate, but I cannot find such information on web also.

 

Royal roads will be offering one soon. However, not in the cheap range but more like in the 30K range.

A problem, at least in the Montreal area, is that doctoral education in business is controlled by all the local Universities so only enough number of candidates graduate in order to keep the local market "healthy". A very few number of candidates is admitted every year so making a DL program would be hard as most courses run with very few students and the initial cost to make them DL wouldn't be justified.

Secondly, the PhD programs are not considered "money" makers like the MBAs but more as a source of potential future faculty force. The competition to get admitted into a PhD is hard so there is no real need to make a DL PhD program as the supply is a lot larger than the demand and there is no economic incentive for this.

 

RFValve,

Not to get personal, but are you in the Montreal area? I live and work in the area and am a graduate of Concordia University.

Getting into ANY English language MBA in Montreal is much easier said than done. I was interested to hear that doctoral degrees are in the same category.

 

Only about 5-10% acceptance rate. Not easy to get into a PhD program in Montreal. However, your chances increase if you are a foreign student with external sponsorship.

The main issue is that most students require University's financial support so there is no capacity to give this to all applicats. Another issue, is the fact that a saturation of PhDs in business wouldn't benefit anybody.

So in few words, the DL aspect is out of the question for PhDs programs in the region as there is no interest to expand the number of students. The only possibility is to offer professional doctorates (DBAs) that would not compete with the local PhDs for professorship positions.

As for MBAs, it is the same issue, after many universities agreed that the local market of MBAs was saturated. It was decided to raise the GMATs to 600 and admit less student to regain the competitive wages.

In the US, it seems that there is no effort to maintain markets stable and the supply of PhDs from for profits in much more than demands. I cannot imagine how hundreds of graduates can find employment as University professors when only one or two vacants per Univerity are open each year. It basically saturates the market with PhDs that wouldn't use their PhD where the PhD is needed.

 

From the even of regulating the supply and demand of PhDs programs, it reflects that Canada is a society of planned economy, not market economy. Even Canadian PhDs is being protected against Canadian DBAs. Therefore, foreign PhD/DBA holders can only be taxi drivers in Canada................

 

I agree. Canada is full of unions and regulation bodies that protect jobs. You have to understand that the Canadian economy is not as strong as the American economy so job security is an issue. The other issue is massive immigration that is seen by many as a treat to job security. So yes, many foreign PhDs end driving taxies but also many local PhDs cannot find suitable employment so at the end it is a matter of survival.

 

I think CSU and UNISA both have a DBL which is a Doctor of Business Leadership. I'm not sure if its different from the DBA or not