Would It be STUPID to spend $41k on a BS degree

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  1. Nathe

    Nathe New Member

    I got a few degrees I am looking at, but honestly I am a little in sticker shock on a few. They sound good but cost in the $40,000 range. Is that normal for an education?
     
  2. Abner

    Abner Well-Known Member


    I would have to say yes. Sorry, I know I am going to catch a lot of flack, but so be it.


    Best wishes to you,


    Abner :)
     
  3. st22345

    st22345 Member

    There are specific circumstances where $41K might be warranted. Can you let us know a little about your background? Would your employer be paying the bill? Have you been out in the workplace or did you recently leave secondary school? Is the $41K spread out over several years? An Ivy league school in the right degree might have a significant return on investment (i.e. BSEE at MIT), particularly if it is someone new to the workplace, but for most people there are signicantly cheaper options.
    If you mention the degree/major you are interested in its easier to make specific recommendations. For many people the recommendations at http://www.bain4weeks.com are great, but there are many other great sites depending on your interests.
    Good luck to you,
     
  4. st22345

    st22345 Member

    Foolish?

    ;) For many people, if the only mistake someone made cost them only $41K, they are getting off light. I have friends who are not wealthy whose divorce cost them over $250K (a different kind of eduacation).
     
  5. SteveFoerster

    SteveFoerster Resident Gadfly Staff Member

    Well, it depends on what your needs are, and what kind of program it is, but in general, yes, that seems like the sort of price you might pay if you didn't do your homework and find more economical options.

    It's certainly a rip off to pay that to the likes of Phoenix, Capella, AIU, and their ilk.

    Can you give us some specifics?

    -=Steve=-
     
  6. Fortunato

    Fortunato Member

    Assuming a 120-hour degree program, $41K is about $350/credit hour. It's pricey in comparison to the University of Wyoming (about $135/hr for online classes), but it's certainly not the most expensive program I've ever heard of, or even enrolled in - the tuition for Duke's CCMBA program is $1,810.42/hr for the class of 2007, and even more for the incoming class that starts in July!

    If this is the best degree that meets your needs and you can afford it, then I say by all means go for it. However, if there are cheaper options available that will carry equal weight with employers, then save some cash for the graduate degree and go to a less expensive school.

    My two cents, for what they're worth (0.001104% of a credit hour at Duke).
     
  7. Randell1234

    Randell1234 Moderator

    Depends...40K from Harvard...good deal. 40K from DeVry...not a good deal. There are a lot of good schools where you can complete a degree a a fraction of that cost.

    What is most important to you?
     
  8. Nathe

    Nathe New Member

    Where do you guys find degrees for significantly less than that? Almost every IT/CS degree I have found is 30-45k. It seems like a lot of money, but I really haven't found less expensive options.
     
  9. Nathe

    Nathe New Member

    Honestly If I could find a solid CS degree for less than 20Grand I would be very happy. I am on the west coast and there is nothing local here for instate tuition.
     
  10. SteveFoerster

    SteveFoerster Resident Gadfly Staff Member

    IT is easier than CS. Fort Hays State University and Amberton both have technology oriented Bachelor's programs. Amberton is $200 per credit-hour, and FHSU is even less.

    Part of the reason that I think that's so expensive is that I don't see why anyone who's an adult learner wouldn't be interested in one of the Big Three, and therefore skip out on a significant portion of tuition altogether in favor of testing.

    -=Steve=-
     
  11. PhD2B

    PhD2B Dazed and Confused

    If you fall into one of these categories you could get a BS in CS or a BS in IT from Touro University International for less.

    http://www.tourou.edu/cba/mtap.htm

    Regular military personnel
    Drilling and active duty reservists
    Retired military personnel
    Members of the National Guard and Air National Guard

    If you don't fall into one of the above mentioned categories, maybe it's time to visit your local recruiter. :D
     
  12. Jeff Walker

    Jeff Walker New Member

    Excelsior or TESC bachelor's for less than 10K (including test prep materials) followed by a 15K to 20K masters would be less expensive and you'd get a masters degree out of the deal as well.

    There are less expensive graduate options in IT.
     
  13. aic712

    aic712 Member

    "It's certainly a rip off to pay that to the likes of Phoenix, Capella, AIU, and their ilk"

    Rip-off is a strong word Steve, there are certainly other RA schools that charge considerably less in tuition. My UOP degree helped get me my new job (but I didn't pay a dime for it because I worked there) :^)
     
  14. RFValve

    RFValve Well-Known Member


    Not really a rip off. Most of the online schools graduate you in a considerable shorter time than traditional schools. AIU and Devry Bachelor's programs can be completed in 3 years even when holding a part time or full time job.

    If your very first job pays 40K a year, you are making your money back as you saved at least one year of studies compared to traditional schools.

    These schools charge a lot because they know that time is money and saving time is worth the 40K
     
  15. SteveFoerster

    SteveFoerster Resident Gadfly Staff Member

    Rip-off is a strong word Steve, there are certainly other RA schools that charge considerably less in tuition.

    You're right. "Rip-off' suggests they don't fulfill their end of the deal, and that's not the case. I merely meant to say they're almost always an unwise choice for financial reasons for those paying for it themselves.

    My UOP degree helped get me my new job (but I didn't pay a dime for it because I worked there) :^)

    Well, that's a bit different. As I recall, you've attended Strayer for free as well, and that's sensible. In fact, when I was at Keiser (which I'd include in the "their ilk" category), I took two courses for free and transferred them to Charter Oak.

    I don't mean to say that proprietary schools are valueless and should be avoided no matter what the circumstances. A degree from AIU is better than none at all, even if they are on probation from SACS. I do mean that if you are on campus, there is almost always a much less expensive option within a reasonable distance, and if you are online, there certainly is a much less expensive option.

    -=Steve=-
     
  16. aic712

    aic712 Member

    I absolutely agree, I would have gone to Charter Oak if I wasn't working for UOP, and probably somewhere else if NGIT didn't have the agreement with Strayer.

    You knew I would have to say something :) Not meant to be an attack, just making a point.

    Hope you have a great weekend, I'm spending mine studying for mid-terms :(
     
  17. nosborne48

    nosborne48 Well-Known Member

    The trick is, the really VALUABLE (financially) bachelorates are the ones that qualify the graduate in some profession like engineering, accounting, or computer science (as opposed, I guess, to IT) These degrees aren't usually available via D/L.

    A "non professional" B.A. is pretty much fungible; go for the cheapest R/A school you can find which almost ALWAYS means your own State University system.
     
  18. sshuang

    sshuang New Member

    How's going with LL.M.?

    Hi nosborne48,

    How's going with your study so far?
    Have you taken the exams yet?
     
  19. Stanislav

    Stanislav Well-Known Member

    I am sure you're generally right. Nevertheless, one can certainly get an accounting BS via DL (my wife got her BS Accounting NYS CPA Track from Excelsior this January. Fully DL.) And while I agree that CS is more rigorous and "prestigeous" major than IT, I can't see how it is more "professional". If anything, it is LESS vocationally-oriented.

    Overall, I agree: get the cheapest BS you can, wich would be a toss between Big Four and local state system.
     
  20. spmoran

    spmoran Member

    I was able to complete my B.S. in Business Information Systems from start to finish for about $15,000. I took a lot of CLEPs and challenges at the local community college. For a $15,000 degree, I am amazed at the doors it has opened.
     

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