Hello everyone... About a year since my last post and still no step closer to picking a doctoral program. Up in the air: Touro and NCU. Question: I just finished my Ed.S. from Nova Southeastern. (I saw an earlier post on why someone would take an Ed.S. over the Ed.D. program and the answer is this: at only 30 credits that one can complete in a year, it was a nice pay jump going from MA to MA+30 on a teachers scale.) Back to the question. Has anyone transfered Ed.S. credits into NCU as above and beyond the 30 they give you for a masters? I have spoken with several staff members at NCU and they are very non-committal about this question. I need to submit a letter of special circumstances showing the courses I have taken. Just curious if someone here has done this already. Touro will only give me 4 credits but the federal financial aid is nice. If NCU will only give me 3-6, it wouldn't be worth the effort. Thanks, Great board btw....very helpful. Scott Hughes BA - Rutgers MS - Nova Ed.S. - Nova
I wouldn't see why any good university worth its salt wouldn't give you advanced standing as a doctoral candidate (i.e., ABD, or all but dissertation, status) for their doctoral programs. If that is not do-able, you might check with your school about whether they would accept a foreign dissertation-only doctorate from the UK, South Africa, or Australia. By the way, what field of studies are you in?
Subject area The MS was in Educational Technology and the Ed.S. is school of Education Technology Management and Administration. I have written a letter showing the courses I have taken and their descriptions. We shall see.
Re: Subject area With a Ed.S you are essentially ABD at Nova. I am curious as to why you would not simply move on to that rather than transfer.
Residency The issue is the residency requirement at Nova. In a job where I don't have a backup person and a 3yr old and a 6 month old at home, getting away for the residency is near impossible. The Ed.S. at Nova was 100% online and NJ to Florida is a long commute.
Re: Residency Your situation is perfectly understandable but I think you are going to have to eventually face the facts. NCU or Touro - no residencies but additional coursework. Nova – no additional coursework but with pesky residencies. If I were you, I would find a way to finish my degree from Nova. I’m not saying NCU and Touro are bad choices, but you’ve already come this far with Nova...
Re: Re: Residency FYI - the PhD/EdD ABD process in the DCTE program (SCIS) does NOT have a residency requirement. Perhaps you can change schools from Education to SCIS (Computing Technology in Education).
Re: Re: Re: Residency I know NSU’s Computing Technology in Education doctoral program used to offer a choice of either an EdD or a PhD with the option to earn an EdS upon completion of all of the coursework. Now, I only see the PhD with no options for the EdS or EdD. Also, I’m not sure how well an EdS from NSU’s Education Department would translate into a PhD from Nova’s Computer Science Department. The program for the PhD in Computing Technology in Education requires 40 credit hours of coursework during which the student must either attend residencies twice a year for a week at a time or four times a year for an extended weekend. DCTE Introduction DCTE Curriculum
Can I ask what program you did your EdS in at Nova, I am thinking about it but not sure about the BrainSmart thing
Re: Re: Re: Re: Residency I just took a look at your EdS program - it's quite different from SCIS's - not nearly as technical. NCU may in fact be your best bet.
I'll be interested too . I have a CAGS which is the New England version of a ED.S. I've written twice to NCU about advanced standing with no response from them. Their catalog states: Note: Individuals holding an Education Specialist degree or who are ABD (all but dissertation) may be eligible to transfer additional credit based on academic evaluation. All transcripts must be submitted for a complete evaluation of transfer credits. This option is only listed under the ED.D program in Education, not the Ph.d in Education or psychology programs.
Re: Residency Of all the doctoral programs I looked into, all universities required a certain amount of coursework through them prior to the dissertation. Each university allowed for a maximum of 30 graduate credits to transfer into their program, but all still required between 24 and 30 credit hours of coursework. If residencies are not an option... Touro offers a PhD in Educational Leadership with three possible concentrations. http://www.tourou.edu/coe/phd.htm NCU offers both an EdD and a PhD in Education with 11 possible specializations. EdD - http://www.ncu.edu/info.asp?i=54 PhD - http://www.ncu.edu/info.asp?i=55 Would you prefer an EdD or a PhD? What concentrations or specializations interest you?
Re: Residency The University of South Africa www.unisa.ac.za offers a dissertation-only PhD in Education, which can often be done with no residency. You might check out whether they offer a field in educational technology or instructional technology.
Ed.S. from Nova Ed.S. was in Technology Management and Administration. Not very technical, more educational theory, literature reviews of technical programs, good grant writing course and project management course. This is a quick program, 10 months, and well paced. 2 classes every six weeks. Usually a paper due each week per class of anywhere from 3-5 pages. Some courses require more, 1 class my final paper was 38 pages, and some weeks just one page. After getting the MS and EdS, I would recommend Nova to anyone looking. If the goal is to become technologically proficient, this isn't the program for you. As a Coordinator of Technology for a school system, I have the tech background. Again, this was all theory. Working in public education, the Ed.D. is the way I will go. I have e-mailed a letter to NCU with all course descriptions. They will evaluate when the transcripts arrive. One area to note: The Masters program and the Doctoral program offer the same courses. The only difference is a capstone project for MA and dissertation for Ed.D. One needs 27 credits of classes and 24 credits of dissertation. I doubt they will give me all 27 credits ( I have 30 above the MS) but any will help. Touro claims to only give 4 credits max. Thanks to everyone that has responded.
I'm not sure how NSU would transfer your courses already earned, but their EDD in Instructional Technology and Distance Education is 100% online, with the exception of an orientation and conference (which can be done in one two week trip to Florida in July). Good luck with your decision!
Re: Residency Another option is Liberty University's EdD in Educational Leadership program. There may be some short residencies but NJ to VA is a lot closer than NJ to FL. http://www.liberty.edu/index.cfm?PID=8758 Their website states: "If a student has completed an Educational Specialist degree from an accredited university, a program of 30+ hours will be designed on a case-by-case basis to complete the Ed.D. program."
