I'm looking into the Associate in Applied Science in Electronic Engineering Technology Degree at CIE or Grantham. CIE offers intensive technical training through application and practice, but they provide less theory and general education than do Grantham or community colleges. Grantham, like Community colleges offer curriculums that are similar to those in technical institutes but include more theory and liberal arts. My question is which way is the best way to go I plan on just getting my AAS degree for right now but what do employers like more like Grantham or CIE?? Thanks Mlaaw Mike
A thousand years ago, when the world was new and all, (1983), I took my A.A.S. from CIE. It was a very good program and I had no trouble at all selling it in the real world but it was worthless toward a residential B.S.E.T. program. Neither CIE nor Grantham is accredited by the ABET. If you have ANY PLANS AT ALL to go beyond the technician role (not that there's anything wrong with being a tech) I urge you not to do either of these programs. There are ABET accredited D/L programs but these require the student to do labs at resident, ABET accredited schools. There is no purely D/L option. If you have a local community college option that is ABET accredited at the A.A.S. level, go there.
Yes. ABET has several accreditation committees; the EAC accredits bachelors degree programs in engineering and the TAC accredits associate's and bachelor's degrees in engineering technology. www.abet.org
I had verified some of the programs that are accredited by ABET and Regional. All Online, doesn't require residency; also, I did some research online for A.S degree in Electronics Engineering...all of them are not accredited by ABET; however, they are accredited by regional body....in that saying, they are better than Grantham U & CEI-WC (National Accreditted). If you are looking for Electronics Engineering Technology; I recommend Weber State University. Weber State University - Online Bachelor of Science in Electronics Engineering Technology http://wsuonline.weber.edu/students/degrees/ Regional & ABET Excelsior College Bachelor of Science in Electronics Engineering Technology http://www.excelsior.edu Regional & ABET Old Domion University Bachelor of Science in Electrical Engineering Technology http://www.dl.odu.edu/programs/ugmajors/index.html Regional & ABET
Thanks for the info!! I'm looking for an AAS in Electronics Engineering Technology for right now and plan in the future to get my BSEET. I cannot find any AASEET online degrees accredited by ABET all I find are BS accredited by ABET. I like Excelsior College but for the As degree it is a Associate in Science in Electronics Technology not AAS in Electronics Engineering Technology but it will go toward a BS in Electronics Engineering Technology. Are the AS in Electronics Technology at Excelsior College the same as an AAS in Electronics Engineering Technology? One more thing... Does it really matter if the AAS degree is accredited by ABET as long as the BS is? Thanks Mike
The Weber State program looks interesting to me. It is ABET and, according to the course listing, large amounts of it can be done online. I do not get the impression that the ENTIRE course can be done online, however. Still, it may be possible to do the lab courses in residence somewhere and transfer those credits to Weber.
I am not even sure the weber state one is real. I have repeatedly tried all the contact numbers for that department and haven't even gotten an answering machine. I found that they didn't seem to offer a CEET degree anymore, but offered something they called computer engineering technology. If you go to their current online page http://departments.weber.edu/CE/dl/default.asp you find that this degree is not even listed under degrees.
yes the weber web site was had to get around. I just want to know if the AS Electronic Technology at Excelsior College the same as an AAS Electronics Engineering Technology. TEKMAN or nosborne48 Where did you find AAS Electronics Engineering Technology online degrees accredited by ABET and Regional. As I said in the above post does it really matter if the AAS degree is accredited by ABET It's just an two year degree??? Mike
Like I said, there are no "pure" D/L undergraduate programs that are ABET accredited. You can find listings of accredited engineering and technology programs at ABET's website: www.abet.org Yes, I think that it DOES matter, even for an A.A.S. Here's why: An A.A.S. degree in engineering technology is a solid academic background for working in the industry as a technician. But it can be more valuable, maybe a LOT more valuable, if it's ABET accredited. Let me give you an example: Here in Las Cruces, the University of New Mexico College of Engineering offers A.S.E.T. and B.S.E.T. degrees through its Engineering Technology Department. ABET credits transfer in; non-ABET credits do not (I tried). The B.S.E.T. is not QUITE an engineering degree, of course. It is much more practically oriented and requires a LOT less math and physics than an engineering degree, BUT (and this is the point) in the vast majority of states, a B.S.E.T. from an ABET accredited school will qualify the holder to take the Fundamentals of Engineering exam. (Indeed, B.S.E.T. grads have a reasonable chance of actually PASSING the F/E.) States impose a variety of experience requirements on B.S.E.T. applicants that they DON'T impose on engineering grads. Usually, two years in the field. Here in NM, the B.S.E.T. can take the exam in his senior year or after graduation, just like his engineering bretheran, but unlike them, he doesn't actually receive his Engineering Intern certificate until he accumulates two years of work experience. The point is, passing the F/E exam is the first professional step toward licensure as a professional engineer. A B.S.E.T. with an F/E certificate will be treated almost exactly like an engineering grad in terms of jobs and salary (at least according to my sources). Now, the A.A.S. in engineering technology comprises the first two years of a B.S.E.T. program! In other words, taking your associates from an ABET school means that you don't foreclose any future opportunities for professional education and employment. But taking a non ABET degree means that you will have to repeat significant coursework if you decide to advance in your career. Plan ahead!
Thanks for the reply nosborne48!! I emailed Excelsior about weather the Associate in Science Electronics Technology degree is the same as an Associate in Science Electronics Engineering Technology. The response was: "Dear Mike, Thank you for your inquiry. For the most part, yes, this degree would be the same. I can say with certainty that this degree would lead someone to a Bachelor's of Science in Electronics Engineering. We offer that degree as well. I will breakdown the degree requirements below for this degree: Associate in Science in Electronics Technology - 64 credits Arts and Science Component - 32 credit minimum * Humanities and Social Sciences/History - 12 credits 1. Communications - 6 credits 2. Humanities - 3 credits 3. Social Science/History - 3 credits 4. Written English Requirement * Natural Science/Mathematics - 16 credits 1. Mathematics to Include Calculus I or Applied Calculus I - 8 credits 2. Physics I and II (minimum one lab) * Arts and Sciences Electives - 4 credits Electronics Technology Component* - 32 credits minimum Core Requirements Circuit Theory I Circuit Theory II Electronics I Electronics II Digital Electronics Microprocessors Electronic Communications Systems Computer Programming Electronics Technology Electives * Note: Seven technology laboratories are required (minimum of four from core subjects)." It's good that I can transfer the credits towards a BS but on the US Dept of Labor web site it has electronics technicians as Workers whose jobs are limited to repairing electrical and electronic equipment. and Electrical and electronics engineering technicians help design, develop, test, and manufacture electrical and electronic equipment such as communication equipment; radar, industrial, and medical monitoring or control devices; navigational equipment; and computers. I like Excelsiors program but I dont want to go to school for two years to fix a VCR. Mike
"I dont want to go to school for two years to fix a VCR." You don't have to. There are plenty of guys at my work that are 2 yr EET grads (mostly Devry I believe). I know what I do isn't rocket science (I work on semiconductor equipment), but it is definately not vcr repair . Intel was hiring a whole crap load of tech's for their Arizona campus a few months back. Most of the people interviewed were disgruntled equipment vendors; however, I recall there being a quite a few ASET's grads. BReady
What I was asking about was if the AS Electronics Technology degree from Excelsior was a "VCR repairman" because the term "Engineering" is not in the title. And no I'm not knocking VCR repairmen, just that the US Dept of Labor calls Electronics Technology people that repair such things different from if the title had "Engineering" in it. Mike
One last thought: There is one other consideration, maybe. If I were presently employed by, say, Raytheon or Boeing as a tech and the company offered to pay all or part of the cost, a B.S.E.T. from Grantham or B.E.E.T. from CIE-World College would make sense. I counld continue to work and there wouldn't be any problem getting my degree accepted by my employer. And if I went looking for another job, the Grantham or CIE-WC degree would make sense in the context of my resume. But if I were coming into the field "off the street", I think I'd rather make the investment in a resident, ABET accredited program. When the degree is the biggest credential you have to offer an employer and you are competing for an entry-level slot, it would be a mistake, I think, to handicap yourself by combining a non ABET degree with a resume devoid of work experience, devoid even of internship work. There's also the issue of "contacts"; through a resident, ABET program, you will meet and work with people already in the industry. That's a good leg up in your new career. Keep in mind that you aren't becoming a technician/technologist/engineer as a hobby. Your intention (I suppose) is to spend twenty years or so doing highly technical work. It is worth spending the time and money to get a solid, universally accepted education in your profession.
I did both the CIE AAS prgram and the Grantham Program. both had their pluses and minus, but both served me well in technical roles. CIE had more emphasis on lab work. Grantham had more emphasis on theory, and the exams were more difficult (CIE had a tendency toward M/C questions).
Excelior offer's two types of Associate degrees. Associate in Applied Science and Associate in Science
