Grading Edge For Conservative Students

Discussion in 'General Distance Learning Discussions' started by jimnagrom, Mar 30, 2006.

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  1. jimnagrom

    jimnagrom New Member

  2. lspahn

    lspahn New Member

    Maybe conservatives are smarter? Just kidding...

    I personally havent seen any of those claims be true, but when surveyed most profs consider themselves "liberal". But this is natural. Most liberals are idealist at heart, and the "bubble" of the academic world is an excellent enviorment for that kind of thinking. Theory with a bubble of application. Very similairly, the "bubble" of a church congregation has a similiar affect on a "conservative". A safeground where you have control that your ideas can only be challenged from a disadvantaged position instead of a level debate...like here right? The difference is alot of colleges are funded by our tax dollars in some cases. And alot of the facist "speech codes" have the weird tendency to target conservative speach, but left wing groups like Peta are allowed to compare the circus to human slavery in america. Dont know if that is a fair position to take...but i dont run a college.

    Most of my profs where absolute screaming "liberals" boardering on communists, BUT they acctually consisted of about 65% of the teachers and were consentrated in departments that were more inclinded to be on the "left".

    Just my thoughts...
    Sorry for all the quotes..trying to avoid labels..
     
  3. Ted Heiks

    Ted Heiks Moderator and Distinguished Senior Member

    Leave it to the conservatives to be dumb enough to think there is liberal bias in places where in fact the bias is in favor of the conservatives.
     
  4. lspahn

    lspahn New Member

    Come on Ted..Ive been here for a while and know your a smart guy. The B&Ms of this country are indoctrinated with liberal agenda oriented people. Just look at the polls of those people, its like the press. And its natural to be inclined to agree with and promote what you agree with.

    Funny how an organization that sides with the colleges trys to debunk a "myth" about there own internal problems. How much credibility would a poll from the NRA have survery gun saftey practices...none.

    Now, is it possible that conservative see liberal professors and assume that they are mistreating them. Obsolutley. But then again, I have been accused by liberals of walking on people because i have had some career success, and I know that is bunk. I was "burger-boy" just a few short years ago, so perception and point of reference is everything.
     
  5. little fauss

    little fauss New Member

    Interesting that this study comes from Dr. Kemmelmeier from the Sociology Department at the University of Nevada. I attended that institution many years ago and as a matter of fact was one of the weakest links on their otherwise exceptional varsity boxing team. I happened to take a course from a sociology professor who while brilliant and witty and highly entertaining, was the single most biased leftist--professor or not--that I have ever met in my life. His name is Berch Berberoglu.

    There was simply no manner of taking his tests and receiving a decent score without giving him the leftist slant. It was written right into the multiple choice questions. That is a fact, I experienced it. No one could say there was any judgment call about it; it wasn't even disguised. He admitted the extreme bias, he reveled in it.

    Dr. Kemmelmeier vents his frustration at this phantom of liberal bias in grading: "I just don't see evidence (of it)." He then seeks to kill the notion that it exists with faint praise: "It is possible that somewhere, somebody might be discriminating against conservative students...".

    Dr. Kemmelmeier, the thoroughness of your research leaves a mite to be desired. In fact, one might almost be led to think you were engaging in what you academics refer to as obfuscation. Less sophisticated laymen such as I have a different word for it: "lying". For if you wanted to see a bright shining monument to liberal bias in grading, with juked-up testing methods, it is but a few steps down the hallway. Go knock on the door; say "hello" to your colleague of years. Can't believe you wouldn't have noticed that elephant in the living room.

    But then again, I am not a full time academic. I don't share your higher level of consciousness.
     
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  6. Ted Heiks

    Ted Heiks Moderator and Distinguished Senior Member

    Sorry, I probably should have used that toothy smiley face guy :D to indicate that I was just joking. And maybe Bruce will forgive me yet one more time and decide yet again not to throw my worthless hide off this board. The actual gist of the whole article was that conservatives by nature tend to choose "hard" majors like business and economics while liberals tend to choose "easy" majors like history and sociology. As such, everybody tends to get lower grades in the conservatives' favorite courses while everybody tends to get higher grades in the liberals' favorite courses. Hence, since there are more liberals in the easier courses (history, sociology) and more conservatives in the harder courses (business, economics), the liberals are getting higher GPAs than the conservatives. Also, the article pointed out that just as the liberals are getting better grades than the conservatives in the humanities and social sciences courses (where the conservatives might well justifiably feel "persecuted"), so also the liberals are getting worse grades than the conservatives are in business and economics courses (where the liberals who make the darn fool mistake of using words like "the rich" and "the poor" will be shouted down by the professor and told "this is not a social issues course" and so, in such courses, the liberals may well justifiably end up feeling "persecuted"). But, for a liberal, it makes for a good theory to think that the leaders of the conservative movement know that they are lying when they talk about liberal bias in academia while the great masses of ditto-heads are too stupid to realize that there is no liberal bias in academia.
     
  7. little fauss

    little fauss New Member

    We're not letting you off that easily, Ted. Just admit it, you're a closet liberal. A right bleeding commie pinko. You just let it slip this one time, now you're trying to cover your tracks.

    Well just know that I and the other Birchers here will be keeping a good close eye on you from now on--comrade.
     
  8. Ted Heiks

    Ted Heiks Moderator and Distinguished Senior Member

    Actually, I'm a left bleeding commie pinko. I voted for Socialist candidates for Presidents in 1992, 1996, and 2000 and Democratic candidates for President in 1984, 1988, and 2004. As to who I voted for for President in 1980, I have, in the past, normally invoked my Fifth Amendment rights, but I think that, this time, I will simply mention that the liars and crooks on the Mesa County (Colorado) Board of Elections sent me a postcard falsely accusing me of not voting that year and I shall happily take that as if it were some sort of notice acquitting me of having made a very large mistake.
     

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