California Coast University DETC NA

Hi Everyone ,

I live and work in Istanbul , Turkey and plan to enroll online to a masters program in psychology .

I think about California Coast Uni.I know it is NA and has DETC Accr. Do you think it is advisable ? What would be the real advantage of Regionally accredited school for me ? I live in Turkey and do not plan to work in USA .

I wonder the credits you earn from a nationally accredited university (e.i.Calcoast) will be accepted in European Union countries or not?

I would appreciate your input on this . What would be my alternatives if any?

Thank you very much

behrin

 

Marhaba,

When I lived in Germany I had many Turkish friends. I love the people and their food. Anyway, I am not the expert on this matter, but I am of the opinion you would be safe attending a DETC school.

The school you are considering is recognized by the the United States Department of Education and CHEA, which one is a government entity; this is what is important. As far as I know, the RA versus NA is an academic conflict which has relevance only in the United States.

Perhaps some of the experts out there can shed more light on the matter.

 

The best thing is to contact the entity in charge of degree equivalences in your country. Not because is NA, it would be accepted in your country. In Canada, DETC degrees are normally not accepted for graduate studies and licensing (e.g. engineering or accounting) so they are practically useless in the Canadian market.

 

I have heard multiple stories where in foreign countries it was specified that degrees from the USA had to be RA. They should accept DETC, IMHO. We know that they don't always accept DETC.

I assume that the main problem is that they are not aware of DETC. Really only a very small percentage of USA graduates come from DETC accredited schools. I believe that is the main problem with DETC acceptance within the USA and I'd be afraid that acceptance outside the USA would be even worse, not better.

 

Thaks for the replies ,

My main concern was cost of course . I think RA online education is about at least 60% more expensive than NA institutions.

I really would like to know if there are some other RA alternatives which cost the same as NA ones .

Anyone know similar online education offered in European countries ?

thanks for your help everyone .

PS:merhaba Kaboom , food is still great in istanbul . and the spring is here now and bosphorus looks awesome .

 

In Canada, DETC degrees are normally NOT accepted for graduate studies and licensing

Based on the information on the California Coast University website, CCC degrees ARE ACCEPTED by some Federal Departments of the Canadian Federal Public Commission and by major corporations in Canada.
As to licensing, Canada ( that is the various provincial, state equivalent , professional associations such as dentists, medical doctors, pharmacists, etc.) does not accept degrees from European countries such as Germany, France, for PRACTICE in Canada.
No relation apparently to DETC degrees but protection of the privileges of Canadian professionals schooled in Canada.

 

Re: Re: California Coast University DETC NA

This is an ignorant post. Accredited degrees from France, South Africa, Australia, UK, New Zealand, US between other countries, are normally accepted for licensing in professions as a teachers, engineers, accountants, between others professions.

The particular case of medical professions is for obvious reasons. However, some foreign graduates are permitted to write examinations and find alternative routes provided they have an accredited degree from their country of origin and the professional associations have accepted their degrees.

As for canadian corporations accepting DETC degrees. They have the right to do so as the law give them the right to accept the degree but the same is for a person that is capable of doing the job but has no degree.

In few words, the utility of the DETC degree in Canada is very limited and would advise a Canadian resident to pursue an accredited (RA) degree from the US, Australia, UK or South Africa in order to maximize the utility of the degree.

 

California Coast University ACCEPTED in Canada

California Coast University Degrees Are Accepted in Canada !

I wish RfValve would not resort to name calling and I quote him :
" ignorant posting ".

Here are some facts I wish he would pay attention to ; can he take the time to read this website page :

http://www.calcoast.edu/recogn.php#Institutional

Quote : " The true recognition of a degree comes from its VOLUNTARY acceptance by the BUSINESS, PROFESSIONAL and
ACADEMIC communities "

TOP corporations in Canada who do ACCEPT the CCU degree : Bombardier Aerospace Corp, Nortel Networks, Monsanto Canada Inc., Mitel Corp.

Senior GOVERNMENT Departments who do ACCEPT the CCU degree : Canadian Forces, Saskatchewan Research Council, Government of Canada, Government of the Province of Alberta.

 

Re: California Coast University ACCEPTED in Canada

My remark of ignorant post was not meant to the fact that DETC degrees would not be accepted by business and corporations. At the end of the day, it is up to the person selling the degree and the person hiring to determine if the person is qualified for the job or not. The degree is legal so no issues with deception.


My remark was made because you indicated that foreign degrees are not recognized in Canada for licensing purposes when engineering and accounting professional associations recognize foreign degrees from selected countries including the USA but not those granted by DETC accredited institutions.

The original question was if a DETC degree would be recognized in a country other than the US and the answer was to check with local authorities as in Canada DETC degrees have very limited utility.

If you are not planning for graduate school, goverment jobs, or professional licensing the DETC degree would work but why to limit yourself when you can graduate from a RA school and have more options.

 

Re: California Coast University ACCEPTED in Canada

Job applications to federal or provincial jobs normally require the applicant with a foreign degree to include a copy of the Canadian degree equivalency granted by a provincial authority.

I would be very interested to see a document where a Canadian province authority grants a DETC degree the same status of a Canadian degree.

I know that in the case of Quebec, even some RA degrees from the US would fail to be recognized as equivalent so I wonder where is the evidence that sustains this statement.

Do you mean that a current goverment employee has been granted a salary increase because of the DETC degree? or do you mean that a person was hired because of the DETC degree? In any case, I would be happy to see a document that grants Canadian degree equivalency to DETC degrees.

 

I disagree with the assertion that DETC degrees have little utility in Canada. The organization I work for has no problem paying for 50% of my Columbia Southern MBA just as they had no problem paying for 50% of my MA (Leadership) program from the University of Guelph.

It is my experience that organizations such as the University of Toronto and York University's evaluation services equate DETC degrees as equivalent to Canadian degrees "for employment purposes only" as they put it.

RFValve do you have some information to support your opinion? If I am headed in the wrong direction with my studies or have been misinformed about the utility of obtaining an MBA from Columbia Southern I would be interested in finding out now rather than later.

 

It depends, are you planning to apply for a PhD after graduation at a Canadian school?

Are you planning to pursue a license from a professional association? e.g. CMA, CMC, CGA,

Are you planning to apply to goverment jobs where the degree is required?

DETC degrees are normally not accepted by professional associations although there are always exeptions. Same thing for graduate schools.

As for goverment jobs, you would need to get an equivalency from a provincial authority (Ontario?). If you are able to get one then the degree can be used to apply for goverment jobs.


If you live in Ontario, your safest bet is to contact http://www.wes.org/ca/ and ask them if your MBA would be evaluated as equivalent to a Canadian MBA. It seems that WES' equivalencies are accepted by goverment agencies in Ontario.


Again, a DETC degree might be good for your needs but some limitations might apply.

 

thanks for the info !!

In this case do you guys know any RA institution offering graduate degrees in Psychology at a same cost as Calcoast ( which is 500$ down payment and then 100$ monthly payments)?

I searched the web and tution fees are very high for RA education ?

thank you everyone

regards ,

behrin

 

One of the advantages of attending a NA school is the payment plan. A majority have very affordable payment plan options, like CCU's $500 down, $150 / month option. I have yet to find a RA school that does this. This is the reason why all my degrees will be from NA schools.
If im wrong about there being no RA schools with a easy payment plan option, im sure someone on this forum knows about it and will let us know.

 

Hi again ,

I think only reasonable alternative would be NCU , which is two time expensive then Calcoast though .

Could anybody studying at NCU give some feedback ? How hard is it ? Can you keep it up with your busy life ?

Would I be able to follow the graduate programs with a full time job and a family ?

thank you

 

Hi RFValve. CMA Ontario accepted all courses I did at Aspen University towards the requirements for the Entrance Exam. I have to do the advanced accounting and Tax courses from a Canadian university, but such would have been the case even if I had gotten my MBA from Wharton School of Business... And with an MBA that cost me 4,200 instead of 42,000, I'd say it's a pretty good deal... without "limiting" my options that is.

I am not saying that getting my MBA from a school like Wharton would not have been better however. But I did not have much choice in terms of the financial resources I had available for my MBA. What I am saying is that you have to treat this on a case by case basis and not generalize...

 

Thanks for the info. I'm surprised that this happened but happy to see that worked for you. I guess the best bet is to contact the association that you are planning to apply and ask them if a DETC degree would satisfy the requirements.

 

I attend NCU. I work fulltime, sometimes overtime, and tend to the needs of my wife and three teenage sons.

I can't speak for the Masters program, but in the DBA program, there is lots of research and writing.

Hi again ,

I think only reasonable alternative would be NCU , which is two time expensive then Calcoast though .

Could anybody studying at NCU give some feedback ? How hard is it ? Can you keep it up with your busy life ?

Would I be able to follow the graduate programs with a full time job and a family ?

thank you

 

Good points. I have an A.A. from an RA CC, and various course units from University of Iowa, UCLA, UCI, etc. I am currently a student at CCU. There payment plan of $500.00, plus $100.00 monthly WITH NO INTEREST, mind you, can't be beat! As far as the NA RA issue, I am well versed. A NA B.A. will work just fine for me.

Take care,


Abner

 

Darn! should have said their and not there. Oh well.


Abner