Forensic document expert

Discussion in 'General Distance Learning Discussions' started by Byran Lee, Sep 3, 2001.

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  1. Byran Lee

    Byran Lee member

    "Nothing should escape these eyes"

    "Each case is given the same meticulous attention. I am painstakingly careful and exact about the [/B]smallest details."

    "Expert court testimony is aided by professional exhibits, presenting facts in a convincing and concise manner. They provide exact information to the trier of fact. My court demeanor is above reproach."

    "I acquired my Ph.D. in Psychology in 1997 from California Coast University, a fully accredited institution."

    Find the above and more, at: http://www.documents-examiner.com/

    Regards,

    Byran
     
  2. mamorse

    mamorse New Member

    Fully accredited by whom? The "American Society of Questioned Document Examiners"? Luckily, her "court demeanor is above reproach". The information posted on her website, sadly, is not... [​IMG]

    Mark
     
  3. Nosborne

    Nosborne New Member

    Now this is something I actually KNOW a little about. There may be a school, other than the FBI, for "Questioned Documents Examiners" but they usually learn their job on the job. And they get very, very good at it. Here in New Mexico, our State Crime Lab documents examiner just retired and they aren't going to find another one easily. I once got a hung jury in a forgery case. The State decided to try it again but THIS time they brought the guy down from Santa Fe. TWO HOURS of meticulous testimony and I couldn't touch him on cross. This time, the jury took fifteen minutes to convict...
    If anyone is interested in this fascinating business, I recommend reading the accounts of the Lindberg kidnapping case. There is an excellent example of document analysis.
    Nosborne
     
  4. Bill Highsmith

    Bill Highsmith New Member

    I know little about this but by coincidence, I ran across what is essentially a digital document forensics graduate certificate program at the University of Central Florida: http://www.graduate.ucf.edu/pagegen/index_ap.cfm?ProgID=160 . UCF does some online programs but I haven't seen any evidence that this certificate program is delivered via DL. I'm sure they could hide the evidence pretty well, if they wanted to, though.
     
  5. John Bear

    John Bear Senior Member

    Being the often-helpful sort that I am, I wrote to Dr. Czermak to alert her to the fact that she was making an incorrect claim on her website. She answered promptly as follows:
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    "I am sorry that my website causes you concern. At the
    time I took my courses at California Coast they were fully accredited to allow
    me to take the Board exam in Sacramento with the Board of Psychology, had I
    chosen to go that route. I did make careful inquiries in Sacramento.
    And how, pray, do I know that you are who you claim you
    are?"
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    She is correct about the possibility of taking the state boards, but that has nothing to do with the accrediation (or, rather, lack of it) of CCU.
     
  6. Byran Lee

    Byran Lee member


    Obviously, despite being a "forensic document expert," this idiot does not have clue on approval versus accreditation, who herself has a "questionable html document."

    Base on her reply to John, I personally think she's a fucking idiot.

    Regards,

    Byran
     
  7. Rich Douglas

    Rich Douglas Well-Known Member

    I don't agree. I've heard and read responses like this for a long time now. It sounds to me like she knows exactly the nature of her degree and the school's accreditation status. She is attempting to manipulate the truth to fit her needs, which does require some knowledge about the situation. I'm sure she's used this type of answer before to get over on people. She just ran into the wrong inquirer this time.

    Rich Douglas
     
  8. Byran Lee

    Byran Lee member

  9. drwetsch

    drwetsch New Member

    Either she is knowingly substituting accreditation for approval/authorization/acceptance (to take the boards) or else she really doesn't understand what accreditation means.

    John
     
  10. chainthrower

    chainthrower New Member

    I have taken two of their forensic classes at UCF and considered it a waste of time. Very poor instruction in my opinion. My time and money would have been better spent attending a week long Encase or Access Data class.
     
  11. sentinel

    sentinel New Member

    What was the problem with these two classes? I am considering enrolling and another member of the forum is already enrolled and found the courses to be of high quality. Sometimes it comes down to a poorly qualified or non-responsive instructor.
     
  12. BlueMason

    BlueMason Audaces fortuna juvat

    Nothing like resurrecting a seven year old thread... :rolleyes:
     

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