Still difficulty with DETC degree Acceptance

I recently made inquiry into Upper Iowa University's MPA program. The question was raised regarding my nationally accredited undergrad degree. The following was the result of that inquiry:

Dear Chuck,



Unfortunately, because Columbia Southern University is accredited by The Accrediting Commission of the Distance Education and Training Council (a nationally-recognized accrediting agency) and is not regionally accredited, we would be unable to admit you to the MPA program.



If you have further questions, please let me know.



Thank you,

I thought I saw on a previous post that UIU would accept NA degrees for admission. Perhaps this is a change in policy.

 

I think as more RA degrees go online you may find DETC accredited degrees less and less acceptable.

 

While I cannot speak for Upper Iowa, I too, faced the same issue with a nationally accredited degree. Prior to learning about accreditation, I obtained a bachelors degree from the Kaplan College For Professional Studies. I spent $9,000.00 for the degree and the utility was next to zero. Due to the utility issue, I completed a bachelors degree in six months via testing from Excelsior College for a fraction of the price of the College for Professional Studies degree.

While the nationally accredited degree was completely legitimate; my goal of getting into a grad school of my choice was handicapped by the national accreditation.

In sum, if your goal is getting into a grad school of your choice, you may want to consider Excesior or one of the other assessment colleges to expand your horizons.

Good luck!

 

It may not be tops on your list, but Im sure if you tried, you would get accepted to many of the for profit RA colleges. It may be our only option.

 

That's odd, because I know for a fact that Upper Iowa University has accepted associates degrees in transfer from Ashworth College. Perhaps they will accept an AS but not a BS in transfer? Maybe they have different criteria for admissions into their masters degree programs? I would ask them to clarify this for you.

 

Southwestern College accepts DETC credits towards a bachelor degree. Perhaps you can transfer credits to this school and quickly finish off another bachelor degree. Southwestern College is regionally accredited (RA).

 

Website:
http://www.chea.org/HETA/default.asp


The Higher Education Transfer Alliance (HETA) is a voluntary group of accredited institutions that are concerned with the importance of student mobility, enhancing success in transfer of credit, and affirming the responsibility and prerogative of individual institutions with respect to acceptance of transfer credits.

Designed by CHEA, the HETA directory can be used by students and the public to find institutions with transfer practices consistent with the four criteria in the CHEA Statement to the Community: Transfer and Public Interest. The directory also provides links to these institutions so that students and others can review a specific institution's transfer policies and practice.

If an Institution is in HETA, What Does This Tell Me?
An institution's membership in HETA tells you that its transfer decisions are not made solely on the basis of the accredited status of a sending institution and that the institution has agreed at least to consider transfer requests from other institutions. Each HETA member institution has an interest in cooperative efforts to assure and enhance student mobility.

 

According to a 2002 Columbia Southern Website:
http://web.archive.org/web/200208160...cred_list.html

A Partial Listing of Regional Colleges and
Universities that accept DETC credits

1. Athens State University Athens, AL
2. Bevill State Community College Sumiton, AL
3. Central Alabama Community College Alexander City, AL
4. Oakwood College Huntsville, AL
5. Troy State University Troy, AL
6. United States Sports Academy Daphne, AL
7. University Of Alabama Huntsville, AL
8. Alaska Pacific University Anchorage, AK
9. Arizona Western College Yuma, AZ
10. Mohave Community College Kingman, AZ
11. Rio Salado College Tempe, AZ
12. University Of Phoenix Phoenix, AZ
13. Cossatot Technical College De Queen, AR
14. Phillips Community College of the University of Arkansas Helena, AR
15. University of Arkansas at Monticello Monticello, AR
16. University of Arkansas Community College at Hope Hope, AR
17. Allan Hancock College Santa Maria, CA
18. Azusa Pacific University Azusa, CA
19. Bakersfield College Bakersfield, CA
20. California State University — Long Beach Long Beach, CA
21. California State University — San Marcos San Marcos, CA
22. Chaffey College Rancho Cucamonga, CA
23. Chapman University Orange, CA
24. College of the Canyons Santa Clarita, CA
25. Cosumnes River College Sacramento, CA
26. Cypress College Cypress, CA
27. Diablo Valley College Pleasant Hill, CA
28. Fielding Institute Santa Barbara, CA
29. Golden State University San Francisco, CA
30. Los Angeles Trade-Technical College Los Angeles, CA
31. Mount St. Mary’s College Los Angeles, CA
32. Pacific Graduate School of Psychology Palo Alto, CA
33. Patten College Oakland, CA
34. Simpson College Redding, CA
35. Southwestern College Chula Vista, CA
36. Taft College Taft, CA
37. University of Sarasota — California Campus Orange, CA
38. West Hills College Coalinga, CA
39. Colorado Technical University Colorado Springs, CO
40. Jones International University Englewood, CO
41. Lamar Community College Lamar, CO
42. University of Southern Colorado — Division of Continuing Education Pueblo, CO
43. Naugatuck Valley Community College Waterbury, CT
44. Tunxis Community College Farmington, CT
45. University of New Haven West Haven, CT
46. Delaware Technical and Community College Dove, DE
47. Catholic University of America — Metropolitan College Washington, DC
48. Southeastern University Washington, DC
49. Brevard Community College Cocoa, FL
50. Florida International University Miami, FL
51. Florida National College Hialeah, FL
52. Florida State University — Panama Canal Branch Tallahassee, FL
53. Gulf Coast Community College Panama City, FL
54. Jacksonville University Jacksonville, FL
55. Lake City Community College Lake City, FL
56. Manatee Community College Bradenton, FL
57. North Florida Community College Madison, FL
58. Nova Southeastern University Fort Lauderdale, FL
59. Okaloosa-Walton Community College Niceville, FL
60. American Inter Continental University Dunwoody, GA
61. Athens Technical College Athens, GA
62. Agusta Technical College Augusta, GA
63. Central Georgia Technical College Macon, GA
64. Columbus Technical College Columbus, GA
65. Covenant College Lookout Moutain, GA
66. Darton College Albany, GA
67. East Georgia College Swainsboro, GA
68. Georgia Perimeter College Decatur, GA
69. Georgia Southwestern State University Americus, GA
70. University of Guam Mangilao, GU
71. College of Southern Idaho Twin Falls, ID
72. Idaho State University Pocatello, ID
73. Northwest Nazarene University Nampa, ID
74. Barat College Lake Forest, IL
75. Carl Sandburg College Galesburg, IL
76. City Colleges of Chicago Harold Washington College Chicago, IL
77. College of Lake County Grayslake, IL
78. Columbia College Chicago Chicago, IL
79. Illinois Valley Community College Oglesby, IL
80. MacMurray College Jacksonville, IL
81. National-Louis University Evanston, IL
82. Southeastern Illinois College Harrisburg, IL
83. Southern Illinois University at Edwardsville Edwardsville, IL
84. Trinity Christian College Palos Heights, IL
85. Bethel College Mishawaka, IN
86. Ivy Tech State College — Kokomo/Logansport Kokomo, IN
87. Martin University Indianapolis, IN
88. Oakland City University Oakland City, IN
89. University of Saint Francis Fort Wayne, IN
90. Vincennes University Vincennes, IN
91. Briar Cliff College Sioux City, IA
92. Central College Pella, IA
93. Clark College Dubuque, IA
94. Graceland University Lamoni, IA
95. Grand View College Des Moines, IA
96. Hawkeye Community College Waterloo, IA
97. Iowa Central Community College Fort Dodge, IA
98. Maharishi University of Management Fairfield, IA
99. Marycrest International University Davenport, IA
100. Quest College Davenport, IA
101. Upper Iowa University Fayette, IA
102. Baker University — School of Professional and Graduate Studies Overland Park, KS
103. Barton County Community College Great Bend, KS
104. Dodge City Community College Dodge City, KS
105. Garden City Community College Garden City KS
106. Independence Community College Independence, KS
107. Seward County Community College Liberal, KS
108. Ashland Community College Ashland, KY
109. Kentucky State University Frankfort, KY
110. Madisonville Community College Madisonville, KY
111. Prestonsburg Community College Prestonsburg, KY
112. Western Kentucky University Bowling Green, KY
113. Louisiana State University and Agricultural and Mechanical College Baton Rouge, LA
114. Louisiana State University at Eunice Eunice, LA
115. Our Lady of Holy Cross College New Orleans, LA
116. University of New Orleans New Orleans, LA
117. Kennebec Valley Technical College Fairfield, ME
118. Allegany College of Maryland Cumberland, MD
119. Capitol College Laurel, MD
120. College of Southern Maryland La Plata, MD
121. Columbia Union College Takoma Park, MD
122. Community College of Baltimore County — Catonsville Campus Catonsville, MD
123. Hagerstown Community College Hagerstown, MD
124. Harford Community College Bel Air, MD
125. Howard Community College Columbia MD
126. Montgomery College Rockville, MD
127. Prince George’s Community College Largo, MD
128. Broadwater State College Bridgewater, MA
130. Eastern Nazarene College — LEAD Program Quincy, MA
131. Fisher College Boston, MA
132. Mount Wachusett Community College Gardner, MA
133. University of Massachusetts Amherst Amherst, MA
134. Baker College Flint, MI
135. Davenport University Grand Rapids, MI
136. Davenport University — Central Region Midland, MI
137. Delta College University Center, MI
138. Kalamazoo Valley Community College Kalamazoo, MI
139. Kellogg Community College Battle Creek, MI
140. Siena Heights University Adrian, MI
141. Spring Arbor College Spring Arbor, MI
142. Wayne County Community College Detroit, MI
143. Alexandria Technical College Alexandria, MN
144. Bemidji State University Bemidji, MN
145. Concordia University, St. Paul ST Paul, MN
146. Lake Superior College Duluth, MN
147. Northland Community and Technical College Thief River Falls, MN
148. Northwestern College St. Paul, MN
149. Pine Technical College Pine City, MN
150. St. Cloud State University St Cloud, MN
151. St. Cloud Technical College St Cloud, MN
152. St, Paul Technical College Saint Paul, MN
153. Alcorn State University Lorman, MS
154. East Central Community College Decatur, MS
155. Hinds Community College Raymond, MS
156. Mississippi Gulf Coast Community College Perkinston, MS
157. Lindenwood University St Charles, MO
158. Ozarks Technical Community College Springfield, Mo
159. State Fair Community College Sedalia, MO
160. University of Missouri — Rolla Rolla, MO
161. Westminster College Fulton, MO
162. William Woods University — College of Graduate and Adult Studies Fulton, MO
163. Miles Community College Miles City, MT
164. Salish Kootenai College Pablo, MT
165. Stone Child College Box Elder, MT
166. University of Montana — Missoula College of Technology Missoula, MT
167. Bellevue University Bellevue, NE
168. Central Community College — Columbus Campus Columbus, NE
169. Central Community College — Grand Island Campus Grand Island, NE
170. Central Community College — Hastings Campus Grand Island, NE
171. Chadron State College Chadron, NE
172. Clarkson College Omaha, NE
173. Metropolitan Community College Omaha, NE
174. Mid-Plains Community College North Platte, NE
175. Peru State College Peru, NE

 

176. Southeast Community College Lincoln, NE
177. University of Nebraska — Lincoln Lincoln, NE
178. Great Basin College Elko, NV
179. University of Nevada-Reno Reno, NV
180. University of Nevada — Las Vegas Las Vegas, NV
181. College for Lifelong Learning Concord, NH
182. McIntosh College Dover, NH
183. New Hampshire Community Technical College at Laconia Laconia, NH
184. Southern New Hampshire University Manchester, NH
185. Caldwell College Caldwell, NJ
186. Centenary College Hackettstown, NJ
187. Fairleigh Dickinson University Teaneck, NJ
188. Hudson County Community College Jersey City, NJ
189. New Jersey Institute of Technology Newark, NJ
190. Saint Peter’s College Jersey City, NJ
191. Sussex County Community College Newton, NJ
192. College of Santa Fe Santa Fe, NM
193. College of the Southwest Hobbs, NM
194. Northern New Mexico Community College Espanola, NM
195. Briarcliffe College Bethpage, NY
196. Canisius College Buffalo, NY
197. Cayuga Community College Auburn, NY
198. Columbia-Greene Community College Hudson, NY
199. Corning Community College Corning, NY
200. D’Youville College Buffalo, NY
201. Daemen College Amherst, NY
202. Dominican College of Blauvelt Orangeburg, NY
203. Elmira College Elmira, NY
204. Genesee Community College Batavia, NY
205. Herkimer County Community College Herkimer, NY
206. Hilbert College Hamburg, NY
207. Houghton College Houghton, NY
208. Jefferson Community College Watertown, NY
209. Mercy College Dobbs Ferry, NY
210. Monroe Community College Rochester, NY
211. Nyack College Nyack, NY
212. Roberts Wesleyan College Rochester, NY
213. Schenectady County Community College Schenectady, NY
214. St. John Fisher College Rochester, NY
215. State University of New York College at Fredonia Fredonia, NY
216. State University of New York College at Oswego Oswego, NY
217. State University of New York College of Agriculture an Technology at Cobleskill, NY
218. State University of New York Maritime College Throggs Neck, NY
219. Touro College New York, NY
220. Ulster County Community College Stone Ridge, NY
221. Costal Carolina Community College Jacksonville, NC
222. Durham Technical Community College Durham, NC
223. Fayetteville State University Fayetteville, NC
224. Guilford Technical Community College Jamestown, NC
225. Mayland Community College Spruce Pine, NC
226. Mitchell Community College Statesville, NC
227. Mount Olive College Mount Olive, NC
228. North Carolina Central University Durham, NC
229. Pitt Community College Winterville, NC
230. Rockingham Community College Wentworth, NC
231. South Piedmont Community College Ansonville, NC
232. Stanly Community College Albemarle, NC
233. Surry Community College Dobson, NC
234. University of North Carolina at Charlotte Charlotte, NC
235. University of North Carolina at Pembroke Pembroke, NC
236. Jamestown College Jamestown, ND
237. University of Mary Bismarck, ND
238. Valley City State University Valley City, ND
239. Ashland University Ashland, OH
240. Columbus State Community College Columbus, OH
241. Davis College Toledo, OH
242. Defiance College Defiance, OH
243. Kent State University Kent, OH
244. Lima Technical College Lima, OH
245. Lourdes College Sylvania, OH
246. Malone College Canton, OH
247. Miami-Jacobs College Dayton, OH
248. Southern State Community College Hillsboro, OH
249. University of Northwestern Ohio Lima, OH
250. University of Rio Grande Rio Grande, OH
251. Youngstown State University Youngstown, OH
252. Connors State College Warner, OK
253. Eastern Oklahoma State College Wilburton, OK
254. Northeastern Oklahoma A & M College Miami, OK
255. Northwestern Oklahoma State University Alva, OK
256. Oklahoma City Community College Oklahoma City, OK
257. Southwestern Oklahoma State University Weatherford, OK
258. St. Gregory’s University Shawnee, OK
259. Tulsa Community College Tulsa, OK
260. University of Oklahoma Norman, OK
261. University of Oklahoma — College of Cont. Ed. And Advanced Programs Norman, Ok
262. University of Science and Arts of Oklahoma Chickasha, OK
263. Western Oklahoma State College Altus, OK
264. Concordia University Portland, OR
265. Northwest Christian College Eugene, OR
266. Portland Community College Portland, OR
267. Southwestern Oregon Community College Coos Bay, OR
268. Umpqua Community College Roseburg, OR
269. Warner Pacific College Portland, OR
270. Cedar Crest College — Continuing Education Programs Allentown, PA
271. Clarion University of Pennsylvania Clarion, PA
272. DeSales University Center Valley, PA
273. Gannon University Erie, PA
274. Holy Family College Philadelphia, PA
275. Keystone College La Plume, PA
276. La Roche College Pittsburgh, PA
277. La Salle University Philadelphia, PA
278. Lehigh Carbon Community College Schnecksville, PA
279. Neumann College Aston, PA
280. Peirce College Philadelphia, PA
281. Pennsylvania College of Technology Williamsport, PA
282. Pennsylvania Institute of Technology Media, PA
283. Point Park College Pittsburgh, PA
284. Horry-Georgetown Technical College Conway, SC
285. Piedmont Technical College Greenwood, SC
286. University of South Carolina — Aiken Aiken, SC
287. University of South Carolina Spartanburg Spartanburg, SC
288. Mitchell technical Institute Mitchell, SD
289. Mount Mary College Yankton, SD
290. National American University Rapid City, SD
291. Aquinas College Nashville, TN
292. Bethel College McKenzie TN
293. Chattanooga State Technical Community College Chattanooga, TN
294. Cleveland State Community College Cleveland, TN
295. Crichton College Memphis TN
296. Cumberland University Lebanon, TN
297. East Tennessee State University Johnson City, TN
298. Martin Methodist College Pulaski, TN
299. Middle Tennessee State University Murfreesboro, TN

And more

 

Thank you Lerner.

It seems there are enough regionally accredited institutions which will accept nationally accredited (DETC) courses in transfer, and presumably associate degrees in transfer, most students should not encounter difficulty in achieving their academic goals.

 

Re: Not Southeastern

Your choice or the other persons?

 

Re: Not Southeastern

Steve thanks for clarification.

The list is from a web link to CSU and I have no way to
guaranty the list accuracy.

Also things change with times, the list is from 2002.

But the students prior to enrolling in to any college should research and check with the university they want to be transferred to in the future if the credits from the college they are planning to attend would be acceptable.


Learner

 

Re: Not Southeastern

You will in a few months when the Higher Education Act is signed into law - at least if you want to maintain Title IV dollars.

 

Re: Re: Not Southeastern

Anyone have a link for this?

 

I know many instances were students with RA associates degrees couldn't get in to RA universities.

There are other qualifiers when applicant is being reviewed for admission in to undergrad or graduate program.

Try to transfer from Cal State LB to National University in LA.
Only classes that have exactly the same duration and content may be considered.

I think the new legislation will be fair but it leaves the Universities that still enjoy academic freedom to make the final decision based on manycreteriia.

it's like employment discrimination laws one cant discriminate minority but still when a person applies for a job the hiring company screens the applicant, checks his background and the hiring manager may not like how the person looks but obviusly if its not for a modeling or entertainment job the person won't know why they were not selected.

I'm for mobility and NA - RA, it will benefit students with achievements and schools with achievements.

Still if one whats to be NARTE certified technologist he will need an ABET Technology accredited Bachelors degree.

In the Specialized, Professional and Occupational world the new legislation may open the door for Professional accrediting bodies to accredit programs at NA institutions.

majority of Professional Accreditors such as ABET, APA, AMA
accredit programs at RA universities only.

this is very serious and important issue that needs to be addressed for the benefit and better future of the students and graduates.


learner

 

Re: Re: Not Southeastern

For what it will be worth (IMO not much) I hope that this bill does get signed into law. It still won't force RA institutions from accepting NA degrees as pre-reqs for their graduate programs. Credits are credits, degrees (if I'm not mistaken) are a different story.


After that, good luck getting another bill signed into law that mandates that employers accept NA degrees as equal to RA degrees. It won't happen because the two degree types are different, and not equal. Hell, different RA degrees aren't even equal (I hold a BGS, I should know).

So what makes you think that people (and schools) won't be able to screen out any candidate for whatever reason- (Title IV be damned)?

 

lets not forget that there is also an issue of professional accreditation.

ABET, APA, AMA, AVA today don't accredit NA education providers.

This may change with the new legislation maybe.

Learner

 

Re: Re: Re: Not Southeastern

Are you saying that holding a BGS has held you back in some way?