Touro or Capella

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  1. PFM

    PFM New Member

    In terms of entering academia, which PhD program (Business)
    would a hiring committee place a higher value on ?

    Thanks
    PFM
     
  2. TCord1964

    TCord1964 New Member

    They would probably choose the candidate who did not end their sentences with a preposition.

    Sorry, I couldn't resist!:D

    I'm not sure either one would exactly set the room on fire. Touro has a respectable program, but I always thought the name of that place sounded weird.
     
  3. PFM

    PFM New Member

    Thanks for your response.
    Are you suggesting that Capella's program is not respectable?

    -PFM
     
  4. DNICE

    DNICE New Member

    Hey Touro is the bomb!:D
     
  5. Shawn Ambrose

    Shawn Ambrose New Member

    For what it's worth, I teach at a community college and I am a Capella PhD learner in the School of Business. I am almost ABD (need to defend my comp exams in a couple of weeks), but I have found an outside reader for my dissertation from UMass.

    I chose Capella over Touro because Capella has three one-week residencies, whereas Touro is all DL. I wanted some face to face interaction.

    My advice, regardless of what school you decide, is to get out in academia at conferences and such. I have presented one paper at a conference that I making revisions on in the hope of publishing it, and will present another paper at the ESS Annual Meeting in Boston. Your work will speak volumes about your ability to present and publish in the academy.

    In any case, good luck in your decision.
     
  6. BinkWile

    BinkWile New Member

  7. worthingco

    worthingco New Member

  8. TCord1964

    TCord1964 New Member

    No, I'm not. I just don't know much about Capella, other than I have heard it is quite expensive.

    Have you narrowed down your choice to Touro and Capella, or are you also considering other possibilities?
     
  9. Dave Wagner

    Dave Wagner Active Member

    Re: Re: Touro or Capella

    Touro's face-to-face interaction is at academic conferences, where I've met with my dissertation chairman, other students and recruited committee members.

    Dave
     
  10. BlackBird

    BlackBird Member


    Go for Capella!

    They advertise in national publications, they are aggressive in obtaining every conceivable programmatic accreditation, they are innovative and constantly improve their image, delivery, programs, courses, etc. They are growing leaps and bounds, which means your school will be better known over time.

    I agree, the residential colloquia (three of them for the doctorate and I think two for masters degrees, don't know about batchelors) are encouraging, important, inspiring, and helps to facilitate many things along the path to the degree. I am very glad that I have met most of my professors or at least committee members at these colloquias.

    Just my two cents...
     
  11. simon

    simon New Member

    SIMON: And the name Capella does'nt "sound weird"?

    BTW, Touro is affiliated with a mainstream and highly respected traditional university and in my opinion this adds considerably to the perception of the value of a graduate degree.
     
  12. simon

    simon New Member

     
  13. SteveFoerster

    SteveFoerster Resident Gadfly Staff Member

    I'm with TCord1964; I don't think either of them will make committees say, "Wow, we can throw all the other CVs away!" I guess it depends on what you think of as academia, though. If you want a spot at a community college, a podunk state university, or a for-profit, either might be okay.

    -=Steve=-
     
  14. BlackBird

    BlackBird Member

    Simon, those are good thoughts. I guess that is why we have colors in this world, right? I bump into traditional faculty that have never heard of Touro yet have hear mucho about Capella. I'm sure it goes both ways. Same dynamics goes for the other DL schools such as NorthCentral U.

     
  15. simon

    simon New Member

    The fact that Capella is spending a great deal of money on marketing their degree programs may lead to a ying and yang situation. Primarily it results in getting their "brand" name out to the public. This may lead to the impression that the school is very commercialized and not on par with traditional universities that do not advertise inordinately in magazines and radio, etc. On the other hand, it may broaden familiarity of those in the business world to the presence of such a degree program. However, we do not know in which direction this will impact the judgement of the value of such degrees.

    It is important to keep in mind that an advanced degree is just one of many criteria that makes one a viable candidate for a job. If a candidate for a position presents him/herself in a substantive manner the degree from Capella, Touro or any other school will complement their application in a favorable manner. However, a degree from whichever school does not substitute for a lack of capability, credibility, appropriate experience or other personality dimensions that make one suitable for a particular job.
     
  16. BlackBird

    BlackBird Member

    I agree, Simon, and at the same time it also depends where you position your school. Capella does not advertise in Cosmopolitan Magazine, for example but has in Time, Newsweek, and NPR stations. I personally think that advertising on NPR is classy, not to mention that other institutions that are highly regarded do the same.

    Also, once a specific program gets programmatic accreditation, then that also elevates the school and the program quite high. When some of my prior Masters level professors that had previously "trashed" Capella heard about Capella being the first Online school to get CACREP accreditation for two counseling Masters programs, they started to praise it. Their own institution is not CACREP accredited. The "buck stopped there!"


     
  17. GME

    GME New Member

    <<Also, once a specific program gets programmatic accreditation>>

    Quite right, in my opinion.

    I'm in Capella's general psychology doctoral program (in the middle of their comps process).

    I expect that should Capella's clinical psyd achieve APA accreditation (which I strongly suspect it will), my degree will also benefit.

    But far more potent will be what the top grads of Capella end up doing (at least that's what the prez of the school said at one of the residencies).

    -- GME
     
  18. PFM

    PFM New Member

    Thank you all for your responses.

    I have just 2 more questions:

    1) I had heard that Touro is a not-for profit University and that Capella is a for-profit University, is this true?

    And

    2) Does it make a difference to academia?

    Thanks

    PFM
     
  19. SteveFoerster

    SteveFoerster Resident Gadfly Staff Member

    I had heard that Touro is a not-for profit University and that Capella is a for-profit University, is this true?

    Yes.

    Does it make a difference to academia?

    Academia's a big place. The answer has to be "it depends". What interests you -- community college, lesser state university, or something else? I'll stand by my previous statement -- if you want a spot at a community college, a podunk state university, or a for-profit, either might be okay.

    One thing I can tell you is that one of the hiring deans at Keiser College used to discard CVs of people with for profit degrees, including Capella. Considering that Keiser College is for profit, I think that's a real statement.

    -=Steve=-
     
  20. RFValve

    RFValve Well-Known Member

    Business academic positions at the University level are not so easy to get .

    However, if you do your research, you will find that some business fields are in high demand as accounting and marketing so getting your degree in the right field might give you an advantage rather than the name of the school.

    Touro's PhD program is a general business degree while Capella's is more focused so I would think that Capella's might give you an advantage if you take the right courses.

    There are a lot of Capella's graduates teaching at the community college level or low tier Universities so it seems like a tested product for this market. However, if you are thinking of getting a position at Harvard or even a second tier University then neither would do it for you.
     

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