West Coast University

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  1. PAULWENLIUESQ

    PAULWENLIUESQ Member

  2. AuditGuy

    AuditGuy Member

    What's the question

    Are you asking if it is a fake? No, it is ACICS accredited.

    WEST COAST UNIVERSITY
    OPE ID: 03698300
    General Information IPEDS ID: 443331
    4021 Rosewood Ave
    Los Angeles, CA 90004
    Phone: 877-505-4928

    For more information about this institution, visit www.westcoastuniversity.com

    ACCREDITATION

    National Institutional and Specialized Accrediting Bodies
    Accrediting Council for Independent Colleges and Schools
    Business (PPB) - Private postsecondary schools offering business and business-related programs
     
  3. PAULWENLIUESQ

    PAULWENLIUESQ Member

    No, those are two different entities. the www.wcuedu.org claims WASC accreditation.
     
  4. Ian Anderson

    Ian Anderson Active Member

    This school used to be a top class engineering school up to around a decade ago. I had a work associate who taught there.
    I'm suspicious of the current school: it offers lots of degrees including doctorates but does not have an .edu suffix on its web address.

    The fact the site keeps asking me to download a chinese character program is also suspicious.

    The WASC site does not list this school.
     
  5. adireynolds

    adireynolds New Member

    The only West Coast University listed in the US Dept of Education's listing of accredited post-secondary schools is the one AuditGuy cites. So, the West Coast U. at www.wcuedu.org has a blatant falsehood on its webpages -- this sounds major alarm bells to me.

    The DOE site:

    http://www.ope.ed.gov/accreditation/Search.asp

    Cheers,
    Adrienne
     
  6. Robert_555

    Robert_555 New Member

    I checked out the website listed. It really is slick. It makes it look legitimate. I live in California and remember WCU closing. However, this website makes it look like WCU never closed. They even have recent catalogs of 2003-2004 and 2005 listed on their site! Why would anyone do such a thing? I mean, this "university", even claims WASC and ABET accreditation! They even state they are able to to offer federal student aid and accept veterans benefits! I dont know what they are trying to pull, but it does get the alarm bells ringing my head!

    Check out the financial aid website at:

    http://www.wcuedu.org/financial.htm
     
  7. eckert16

    eckert16 New Member

    Wow. Such an intersting site. ... If I didn't know better, I'd consider signing up if I needed their services.

    It is interesting, the org that AuditGuy cites on ed.gov has the same physical address as wcuedu.org site. However, I can't seem to get beyond the site homepage cited in ed.gov...interesting.

    I dropped a quick email to ABET to see if they had any perspective.
     
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  8. PhD2B

    PhD2B Dazed and Confused

    WCU offers the exact same specializations in their PhD in Applied Management and Decision Sciences program that Walden University offers. I wonder how many other programs WCU has copied from other universities. This should be setting off some sort of alarm as this is not a typical university program.

    http://www.wcuedu.org/program.htm
    http://www.waldenu.edu/c/Schools_834.htm

    Ph.D. in Applied Management & Decision Sciences
    Ph.D. in Applied Management and Decision Sciences - Engineering Management
    Ph.D. in Applied Management and Decision Sciences - Finance
    Ph.D. in Applied Management and Decision Sciences - Information Systems Management (ISM)
    Ph.D. in Applied Management and Decision Sciences - Knowledge Management
    Ph.D. in Applied Management and Decision Sciences - Leadership and Organizational Change
    Ph.D. in Applied Management and Decision Sciences - Learning Management
    Ph.D. in Applied Management and Decision Sciences - Operations Research
     
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  9. mountain

    mountain New Member

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  10. eckert16

    eckert16 New Member

    A little research.
    Start with the DoE website, showing WCU physical address and you find:

    American Career College is located at the physical address on the DoE website: 4021 Rosewood Avenue, Los Angeles, CA 90004, Phone: (800) 883-8589 Curriculum: Allied Health Professions http://www.americancareer.com
    http://www.tierraproperties.com/westside_topics/schools/higher_education/a-z.htm

    In Los Angeles: American Career College , 4021 Rosewood Ave. , Los Angeles, CA 90004, Phone: 323-668-7555, Fax: 323-644-3379, General email: [email protected]
    http://www.americancareer.com/contact/

    The Chinese Counsulate is located next to the physical site listed on the wcuedu.org as the physical address of West Coast (440 Shatto).
    China, People's Republic of, Consul General, 443 Shatto Place, Los Angeles, CA 90020
    http://www.ocalmanac.com/Immigration/im01.htm

    443 Shatto Place, Los Angeles, CA 90020, Tel (213) 807-8016,8017,8026, Fax (213) 380-1961
    http://www.corp-compass.com/dir-econdev.htm

    The Dong-guk Royal University of America, www.dru.edu, is located at the same physical address as the West Coast physial contact address, at 440 South Shatto Place, Los Angeles, CA 90020 (213) 487-0110/(800) 303-1800, Fax (213) 487-0527, Approved 10/22/83 MSOM
    http://www.acupuncture.ca.gov/education/schools.htm

    In 1996, two schools merged:
    Royal University of America in Los Angeles, California merged with Dongguk University and officially changed its name to Dongguk–Royal University (DRU). This merger is the first of its type in the world–no other Korean university has ever acquired a foreign university or college.
    http://www.pubmedcentral.nih.gov/articlerender.fcgi?artid=538520

    Dongguk Royal University, 440 Shatto Place, Los Angeles, CA 90020, Tel: (213) 487-0110, Web: http://www.dru.edu
    http://www.qpuncture.com/info/uslist.php?in_tab=1

    ACAOM Accredited (Master of Science in OM), Dongguk Royal University, 440 Shatto Place, Los Angeles, CA 90020, Phone Number(s): 213-487-0110, 800-303-1800, Fax: 213-487-0527
    E-mail Address: [email protected]
    http://www.tcmstudent.com/schools/Schools%20State.html

    check it out:
    8345
    WEST COAST UNIVERSITY, 440 SHATTO PLACE, LOS ANGELES, CA 90020-1765, 213-275-8828,
    http://www.getcollegecredit.com/Individual_States/california.htm

    What a web that is weaved. I've not physically checked these out. Are they related?
     
  11. Robert_555

    Robert_555 New Member

    I also sent ABET and WASC emails to get their perspectives. Another thing, I feel sorry for the alumni from the real WCU that closed down in the 1990's! This site makes their degrees which were earned honestly look like a sham to some potential employers!
     
  12. PAULWENLIUESQ

    PAULWENLIUESQ Member

    Yea, the "real" WCU was closed in 1996 and its building was sold to Dong-Guk Royal University of America (an Oriental Medicine school run by the Korean-Americans) by WCU' creditors.

    BTW, I really feel sorry for one "Dr. Robert M.L. Baker Jr., who was the president of WCU (the real one!) between 1970-1997 (an expert on the UFOs as well). apparently, some "smart" guys are using his' name to fool people to sign up for this WCU deal and the good doctor doesn't even know about it!
     
  13. eckert16

    eckert16 New Member

    I received an answer from ABET saying that they are not accredited, and to check their website for currently accredited schools.
     
  14. PAULWENLIUESQ

    PAULWENLIUESQ Member

    Of course it is not accredited-because it died 10 years ago. Someone is using its dead body to fool people. This is an excellent example to show how the DL learning mode can be easily misused by bad people- "WCU" (the fake one) is charging $10,000 per head for the "DBA" program-which is of course toally on line (my god!)
     

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