Phoeinx or FMU?

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  1. onlinecollege

    onlinecollege New Member

    Hi everyone,

    Can anyone give some insight on the University of Phoenix or Florida Metroploitan University? I want to get my Bach. in business. I have an associate degree from a state community college, but I love online classes and would really help with my schedule. I live in south Florida, so an FMU degre is accepted by employers around here and so is UOP. These are the two schools that I would like to attend. Does any have any recomendations? pros and cons. PLease let me know. Thanks.
     
  2. Randell1234

    Randell1234 Moderator

    UoP is regional accredited and FMU is not. I would look at other options.
     
  3. onlinecollege

    onlinecollege New Member

    Do you know anything about the school? the pros or cons? would you recomend UOP from an educational standpoint? Money is not an issue at all, my employer will for all of it. FMU is not accredited from CHEA? When I went to CHEA's website, FMU was there. What other 100% online programs for a Bach. in business finance would you recomend?
     
  4. Jigamafloo

    Jigamafloo New Member

    FMU is accredited by the Accrediting Council for Independent Colleges and Schools (ACICS), which is a recognized accrediting body by the CHEA. However, regional accreditation is pretty much the gold standard.

    Randell's point was that regional accreditation is by far the preferred option if you're looking for wide acceptance of the degree. Given strictly a choice between the two, I would go with UOP.

    There are MANY other regionally accredited business DL programs out there, at a lower cost. I don't have the skills with the search function that some of the others do, but I do know that previous threads have provided extensive listings of these programs.

    Anyone?

    Dave
     
  5. me again

    me again Well-Known Member

    I would stay away from FMU for the sole reason that it is not (regionally) accredited. Period.
     
  6. Randell1234

    Randell1234 Moderator

  7. BinkWile

    BinkWile New Member

    FMU is owned by Corinthian Colleges Inc, whom I previously worked for. I would Highly adise you to stay as far away from FMU and all other Corinthian-owned institutions. Not only is the non-RA an issue, but the whole company is constantly being looked at by the USDE for everything from grade manipulations to "missing funds" at the corporate level. The TWC investigates their NIT schools in Texas practically every week.

    My advice includes:

    National Institutes of Technology
    Parks College
    Everest College

    And a whole host of other schools.
     
  8. BinkWile

    BinkWile New Member

  9. edowave

    edowave Active Member

    UF would be cheaper than both, and more widely accepted. They are RA and AACSB and EQUIS. See http://www.cba.ufl.edu/upo/programs/obsba/
     
  10. JoAnnP38

    JoAnnP38 Member

    Re: Re: Phoeinx or FMU?

    For many people living in Florida (this program doesn't support testing centers outside the state) and who already have an associates degree or equivalent coursework -- I think this this is a very good option. Relatively inexpensive for FL residents AND from a prestigious business school which is AACSB accredited.

    Good luck
     
  11. aic712

    aic712 Member

    If you are dead-set on choosing between the two, I would pick UOP simply due to them being RA, I had a good experience with the UOP ground campus, I can't speak for online as I never took an online course.

    University of Florida is probably your best option, much cheaper and it's name and recognition will garner a lot of positive returns from academia as well as the business world.
     
  12. Susanna

    Susanna New Member

    I would consider the University of Florida option for the reasons mentioned. However, UoP provides a shorter graduation time-frame in most cases. As aic712, I had an overall good experience with UoP and I did attend the online campus. Although I understand the frustrations that some have felt with this program particularly in terms of cost.

    Good luck to you,

    Susanna
     
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  13. TCord1964

    TCord1964 New Member

    I personally would not attend either UoP or FMU. I think the reputation of UoP is not very good, and FMU degrees will not be widely accepted by either employers or other schools if you decide to go on to further studies.

    National accreditation is one thing, but FMU is accredited by ACICS, which in my opinion is not even as highly regarded as DETC.

    If possible, stick with a regionally accredited degree. If you're looking to save a few bucks, look into a state university, college or community college in your state which might offer DL courses.
     
  14. aic712

    aic712 Member

    Hi Tcord1964,

    I'm curious, why do you think ACICS is not as highly regarded as DETC? I'm not insinuating anything, just curious.
     
  15. TCord1964

    TCord1964 New Member

    It's more a matter of perception than anything else. The majority of ACICS-accredited schools are more like vocational-technical schools than actual colleges. If you look over the list of ACICs-accredited schools here: http://www.acics.org/accredited/ , you'll see that the majority of the programs they offer are for things like medical transcription or administrative assistant. I'm not saying DETC doesn't also accredit similar programs, but I have seen more people complain about not being able to transfer credits from a school like ITT Technical Institute than Ashworth College or Education Direct.

    That being said, I originally attended a state-approved but otherwise unaccredited vo-tech school which served me very well at the beginning of my career, but that was back when I knew nothing about accreditation.

    Stick with an RA, or at the VERY least, a DETC-accredited school, and you should be OK.
     
  16. aic712

    aic712 Member

    You are very correct about ITT, they stream their commercials non-stop around here, and there is a disclaimer that states "limited transferability of credits" that would be enough for me to not decide to go there. I don't want to be told that my degree is "terminal" because I have no choice in the matter.
     
  17. Jigamafloo

    Jigamafloo New Member

    It’s the same in my local area (San Antonio). The ITT Tech commercials typically begin with the formulaic (spoken in a coached monotone), "I was a loser, used to steal car stereos out of the ITT student parking area, and then I enrolled. And now my parents are very proud of me!!" type of drivel.

    Not knocking the students, instructors, or for that matter the ITT Tech Institution at all. They've provided a lot of folks that I grew up with (Jeffersonville, IN area) with a decent education and career. But for the sake of credibility/taste/intelligence, would it kill them to show an actual graduate on one of these commercials that didn’t look dazed and confused, or have an almost criminal hard luck story that inadvertently generalized the rest of the students?

    Just ranting about a pet peeve….

    Dave
     
  18. SteveFoerster

    SteveFoerster Resident Gadfly Staff Member

    Keiser College advertises heavily on daytime television, including such shows as Jerry Springer. I can't help but wonder if that's where they have to go to find prospective students incapable of the critical analysis necessary to evaluate the costs and benefits. A few programs here make economic sense, but there are several "dumping ground" programs that in this job market have an indefensibly low ROI.

    -=Steve=-
     
  19. blahetka

    blahetka New Member

    In the '70's CDC use to air commercials with a guy in a suit. He started with "I use to work in construction. I had to carry 2X4's and bricks. Now, after studying at CDC, I'm a field engineer and I carry disc packs."

    Back in those days, 10-high disc packs were heavy, and one hauled around a scope and tool bag, so (I was a field engineer in those days) I couldn't undertand the allure- I was still schlepping stuff about.

    Another commercial showed another guy in a shirt and tie discussing how he worked in a facotry and came home every night greasy and grimey. As a CDC graduate, he became a field engineer and never got his hads dirty. This one was taken off the air after a short period due, from what I was told, to an uproar by graduates and other field engineers the commercial outright lied. I'm not sure as to the veracity of the rumor, but I was always getting priner ink, grease and other gunk on my shirts and ties.
     
  20. Ted Heiks

    Ted Heiks Moderator and Distinguished Senior Member

    Hey, wait a minute! I resemble that remark! I watch Jerry Springer!
     

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