Trinity C&U

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  1. swandog

    swandog New Member

    I graduated from Trinity University in Texas which in no way is affiliated with Trinity C&U. I am teaching English here in Japan at a Jr. College. Anyway to make a long story short we have this teacher here that was hired last year and on his Resume he has listed a B.A. degree in TEFL from Trinity C&U. When we hired him I at first thought he was an Alumni member or my University, but he cleared that up by saying TCU was in Sioux Falls, S.D.. Well I called for verification of his degree,references, and everything was fine until today when I just started reading your website and found out the truth about TCU. Now my question is simple. Did this teacher actually have to do work and get credits in order to complete his degree or did he just send money and get a degree? If anyone has information about this University and it's TEFL program please let me know. I am going to bring this up on Monday to the Dean and ask for his dismissal if this University is a scam. Thank you for your help! My email is [email protected]
     
  2. drwetsch

    drwetsch New Member


    You get liberal life experience credits (therefore hard to tell what the real work that was done to get the degree), no legit accreditation, and a B.A. for the cost of $695.00. http://www.trinity-college.edu/fees.html


    The bogus accreditation is found at http://www.trinity-college.edu/meber_acre.html This group is not recognized by the US Dept. of Ed.

    Home Page -- Explore: http://www.trinity-college.edu


    John
     
  3. RFValve

    RFValve Well-Known Member


    When TC&U was starting about 5 years ago, I got an offer to get my PhD for only $150 US!!!, no course work, nothing, even they offer to backdate my degree plus their offer included degree confirmation from a telephone number. Great deal! His degree is bogus and has no accreditation, I would fire him A.S.P. By the way, there was a scandal in an Australian university no too long ago about TC&U, a professor was hired on his TC&U PhD in an Australian university, when this was found it was all over the news. I think I have the news report somewhere, if I find it I will post it here.
     
  4. RFValve

    RFValve Well-Known Member

    The TC&U scam is all over the world, there are several universities using this name for the same purpose. I found Trinitys in UK,US and Spain. I think the original one is from UK claiming accreditation from Spain or something like this.
     
  5. Guest

    Guest Guest

    You know, this makes me wonder whether the Professor on Gilligan's Island had a legitimate doctorate or not! [​IMG]

    Russell
     
  6. There are a couple of "Trinity College & University" entities, both using several domain names, one with an address in Spain, one formerly with an address in South Dakota, now in the British Virgin Islands.

    See

    Watchdogs Question an Online College Offering Credit for Experience
    Chronicle of Higher Education, December 1, 2000 http://chronicle.com/free/v47/i14/14a04401.htm

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    Kristin Evenson Hirst
    DistanceLearn.About.com
     
  7. Chip

    Chip Administrator

    Let me state it with exceptional clarity, in case there is any question.

    Trinity College and University, and the dozens of other scams affiliated with it, is a diploma mill, a fraud, a scam, whatever you would like to call it.

    While they claim to require extensive "prior learning" to grant a degree, you can basically tell them anything... they don't verify anything, so as long as you give them your credit card, you get your degree.

    And for those who might be thinking of taking the easy way, here's another example of a "resume time bomb" that's about to explode.
     
  8. swandog

    swandog New Member

    An UPDATE on the teacher here. I went to the Dean and showed him this website and then the one with Trinity on it. The teacher was furious that I found out this information about Trinity and even went so far as to say the school was now in Florida and it is not that Trinity. Anyway his contract will be up in October and then he will be let go. He is already searching for another school to work at and if they call us for a reference we will be sure to give them this website. Can someone tell me the best way to find out if someone has a scam degree like this one? It is very difficult to keep up with all of them as there are so many. Thanks everyone for your information it was GREAT!!
     
  9. RFValve

    RFValve Well-Known Member

    A good list of mills is the one from the oregon state:
    http://www.osac.state.or.us/oda/unaccredited.html

    Note that öur Friend ¨"Trinity" is included.
    By the way, was he a good professor?, does he know his stuff? was there any student complaint?
     
  10. So, which Trinity is it? [​IMG]

    Surely he can provide an address and a URL.

    As for future resume screening -- I'd check the school's website and see if they claim accreditation. If so, I'd check the accreditation -- does the association list the school? is the association recognized by the US Department of Education? And an occasional call or e-mail to the school to verify might be in order.



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  11. And speaking of worthless paper in higher education:
    http://www.stanly.cc.nc.us/it/SaundeM/catalog2001/personnel.pdf

    A proud graduate of Cambridge State University, Class of Whenever the Credit Card Cleared.

    I'm amazed by the willingness of some to muck up otherwise good credentials with one of those $300.00 blights. Why risk it?
     
  12. mamorse

    mamorse New Member

    True, Dennis. However, very few of the faculty of Stanly Community College possess a doctoral degree. I wonder if "Dr." Crump received any actual benefit form her bogus degree. I would hope not!

    Mark
     
  13. UWIJAMAICA

    UWIJAMAICA member

    Here in Jamaica, West Indies, we use the Directory published the Association of Commonwealth Universities and Colleges along with the International Handbook of Universities (IHU). The former is limited in that while ACU (by way of peer review) serves as an accrediting body, it is only for British Commonwealth Countries.

    The IHU lists only those colleges accredited by the recognized authority in that country (internationally), and standards may differ from country to country. Further, in keeping with the United Nations Charter on Education and the Lisbon Convention, there is an obligation on our part to accept degrees from colleges listed in both of the abovenamed directories, in particular the IHU.

    Further these are the standards used by Regionally Accredited colleges in the USA with which we have reciprocity arrangements, specifically the City University of New York (CUNY).

    Here in Jamaica, at the University of the West Indies, we consider only qualifications from Regionally Accredited Colleges, with respect to the USA.
    Rajkumar
     
  14. Bruce

    Bruce Moderator

    Regardless of whether or not she receives any monetary benefit for her doctorate "degree" from Cambridge State, she lists herself as "Dr.", which is a benefit and a privilege she clearly has not earned. If I was one of her colleagues with a legitimate doctorate, I wouldn't be too happy with "Dr." Crump cheapening my accomplishment. Just my opinion, of course.

    Bruce
     
  15. Guest

    Guest Guest

    Another faculty person at SCC, Dr. Joan Eudy, lists a Ph.D. from LaSalle University.

    Russell
     
  16. Bruce

    Bruce Moderator

    Thanks for pointing this out Russell, I really hadn't looked at the SCC catalog beyond "Dr." Crump.

    I know there is a legitimate LaSalle University in Pennsylvania (why their legal department never shut down the bogus LaSalle is beyond me), so I'll withold judgement on Dr. Eudy for now. But...Cambridge State is, without doubt, a total fraud.

    Can you imagine the repurcussions of having not one, but two degree mill holders on the faculty of an RA school? I would hope that the regional accreditor would insist on some tighter background checks on potential faculty, at the very least.

    Bruce
     
  17. Bruce

    Bruce Moderator

    [​IMG] What I meant to say was that *La Salle* University in PA is legitimate (notice the space).

    That doesn't diminish the..ahem...record of LaSalle of Louisiana.

    Bruce
     
  18. Lawrie Miller

    Lawrie Miller New Member

    FROM A STANLY COMMUNITY COLLEGE BIO
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    "Joan Eudy, RNC, MSN, Ph.D:
    Joan Eudy came to Stanly CC in July 2000, and has been in nursing and allied health education for the past 15 years. She has taught at Rowan -Cabarrus Community College and Cabarrus College of Health Sciences in Concord.

    She received a BSN from Plattsburgh State University in New York, an MSN from UNCC in Charlotte, and a Ph.D. in Health Services Management from LaSalle University in Mandeville Louisana."
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    Regretfully, not the La Salle in PA, I'm afraid. Stanly CC doesn't seem to be doing too well in the credential vetting department, think I'll apply for a faculty position.

    Still, look on the bright side, other than academically, isn't LaSalle, LA, a better class of "less than wonderful" than Cambridge State, in terms of notoriety and panache? Clearly, no expense spared. The lady has class.
     
  19. Guest

    Guest Guest

    I don't think they would hire you, Lawrie. I think their policy is that one must be enrolled in a degree program for at least six weeks, didn't you complete your degree in four weeks? [​IMG]

    Seriously, while some of the faculty in these positions will tell you that the school does not remunerate them for the unaccredited degree, the fact that their names are listed with the degree presents to the reader that they have a doctorate.

    Russell
     
  20. mamorse

    mamorse New Member

    I think I'll have my dog and cat apply for faculty positions at SCC. I've carried those two sluggards long enough!

    Mark
     

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